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« on: July 08, 2018, 05:50:34 pm »

In the public transport / campaigning / improvement 'game' there are many organsations, and the direction and motivation may be very similar, strongly held views and passions mean that even the tiniest of differences can get blown up out of proportion.  Organisations that shouldn't be competing with each other (but rather partnering) do compete, and individuals may find "if you do something for them, you can't do something for us".  Such a thing blew up for me a couple of months back - glad to report (without details) that concern has been overturned (and for the long term too), but it has set me thinking and looking at how all the various organisations and types of organisations fit together - how they differ in approach from looking primarily to the past or looking into the far future.  And considering very carefully what I take on, and indeed whether I step back from one or two things.

Anyway - I came up with this chart of organisations and organsiation types in the rail / public transport business;  it's from personal observation and members are welcome to disagree / persuade me change my mind



Some keys

* - main thrust
+ - significant interest
- - limited interest
blank - no noticable interest

(1) - no public membership, but there is a public input role

C - Community
R - Rail Industry
G - Governmental
capitals for lead players; lower case for significant support

Community Rail Partnerships are an especially diverse bunch!  I have written "varies" for open public membership there because it DOES vary - TransWilts is a member organsation for example and anyone who agrees our objectives is welcome to join. See https://www.transwilts.org/friends-area .  But I will admit that's not a common setup; volunteers and helpers are very much welcome, but in may cases the CRP's governance is from one, or a handful, or a scarsely managable rabble (in one case), of local authorities.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 09:11:22 pm »

Grahame - there's another out there - Transport Focus, who sent me an unsolicited email with a simplistic questionnaire about whether I preferred travelling by diesel or electric trains earlier this week.

Have I just been spoofed/infected with an internet virus or are they a serious organisation? To be fair they have a relevant looking website
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 09:28:45 pm »

Grahame - there's another out there - Transport Focus, who sent me an unsolicited email with a simplistic questionnaire about whether I preferred travelling by diesel or electric trains earlier this week.

Have I just been spoofed/infected with an internet virus or are they a serious organisation? To be fair they have a relevant looking website

Oops - I'm out of date.   New(ish) name for Passenger Focus.   Will correct my graphic tomorrow.   Serious and official body - and with real teeth in certain very specific areas.  Know them well / work well with them.  Excellent data / statistic source.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 09:41:06 pm »

Oops - I'm out of date.   New(ish) name for Passenger Focus.   Will correct my graphic tomorrow.   Serious and official body - and with real teeth in certain very specific areas.  Know them well / work well with them.  Excellent data / statistic source.

Graphic corrected - couldn't let that one stand wrong!
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 09:12:16 am »

I'd also suggest that London TravelWatch have an interest in the mid-future such as Transport Focus do - they are the latter's equivalent in the M25 area around London. And no, no membership....
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 09:26:13 am »

I'd also suggest that London TravelWatch have an interest in the mid-future such as Transport Focus do - they are the latter's equivalent in the M25 area around London. And no, no membership....

Noted; I'll go back and switch that "?" to a "no" and think whether to add a + or - ...

"TravelWatch" is a confusing name ... for West Mindlands, North West, South West it's one sort of organisation.  London, of course, has to be different  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 11:01:46 am »

London is the 'official' one - and has to give permission to the others to use the Travelwatch name - the others are more of a forum without the powers of the London one.
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