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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2018, 09:57:01 » |
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Bob, I'm not totally 100% certain, but isn't the dispute about the role of the guards (i.e. they won't be safety critical anymore)? I think the reference to their T&Cs is that those are their personal ones (like pension entitlement etc.). I might be wrong though  That is what I thought as well. But the RMT▸ are now accusing SWR» of intending to expand their DOO▸ operational area, something which surely means the complete removal of guards/conductors (I haven't figured out the difference yet!), while SWR say this is completely untrue ('...offered repeated reassurances that we are guaranteeing jobs, salaries and terms and conditions of Guards...') so, as I say, one of the parties in this dispute is lying. So while SWR and/or the RMT continue behaving like spoilt children the travelling public can go hang. I consider it possible that neither party is actually lying. SWR may well be considering expanding the DOO area. And they may well be truthfully "guaranteeing jobs, salaries and terms and conditions of Guards" Note that this does NOT actually state that "guards will be on all trains that have them at present, and will have sole charge of door operation" It promises that present salaries and other terms and conditions will remain. So it seems possible that EXISTING guards will be retained, (possibly being found other duties) but not replaced. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2018, 10:17:39 » |
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SWR» now advertising LIMITED service Salisbury to Yeovil for Saturday. Actual times to be published later
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2018, 10:38:57 » |
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From the RMT▸ : http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/south-western-could-be-paid-to-not-run-trains/Parliamentary questions reveal taxpayers could pay South Western Railway not to run trains during RMT strike action
Questions tabled by MPs▸ have revealed that the taxpayer, via the government, is set to pay South Western trains not to run trains during current strike action by RMT.
The shocking revelation comes as RMT members prepare for the next 24 hours of strike action from midnight tonight in the fight for safe, secure and accessible services across South Western Railway.
In response to a written question this week rail minister Joe Johnson was forced to confirm that South Western Railway has exploited a clause in its franchise agreement and applied to the government to be reimbursed for revenue loss as a result of industrial action. |
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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2018, 12:27:33 » |
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In response to a written question this week rail minister Joe Johnson was forced to confirm that South Western Railway has exploited a clause in its franchise agreement and applied to the government to be reimbursed for revenue loss as a result of industrial action. Well surely that's the fault of the organisation that wrote the contract. Oh, hold on a minute.....  |
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2018, 13:32:39 » |
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Inevitable result of DfT» micromanaging the rail system. - They set the DOO▸ Policy - they take the risk!
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2018, 17:28:20 » |
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Inevitable result of DfT» micromanaging the rail system. - They set the DOO▸ Policy - they take the risk!
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2018, 17:50:49 » |
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Inevitable result of DfT» micromanaging the rail system. - They set the DOO▸ Policy - they take the risk!
............and the Unions take advantage. Not quite sure how the Unions are taking advantage here. The DfT sets a policy they know the Unions will not agree to and so predictably there is a strike. Negotiations where the key decision make is not in the room are notoriously difficult to resolve. Here the DfT is trying to ape Thatcher when she took on the mineworkers, but without the competence to pull it off. Whereas Thatcher wanted to close the mines anyway, there is no way that Grayling can shut the railways - nor can he stockpile train journeys or either as Thatcher stockpile coal at the power stations. Railways are essential to our economy - especially SWR» since a large part of London including much of the civil service relies on it to get them to work. So who is taking advantage - some could argue that SWR are taking advantage in that DfT is paying them not to run trains. But then they predicted this would be the result of DfT's decision and so got the clause in the franchise. If drivers feel they are placed in an impossible position and end up in court (Hayes & Harlington) if they make a mistake in difficult circumstances the Unions will always be able to claim it is unsafe with some credibility. DOO will always need safety trained platform staff on crowded platforms. Much better for the DfT to put their money into better technology to make existing DOO work before they start forcing it on unwilling TOCs▸ in new areas. |
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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2018, 17:54:53 » |
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SWR» now advertising LIMITED service Salisbury to Yeovil for Saturday. Actual times to be published later
Limited in the sense that it’s buses if the timetable on the SWR website is to be believed. However, a rail shuttle service will now be operating once again between Bournemouth and Weymouth as it did on Thursday. |
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2018, 18:13:03 » |
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Yes, they were not in the earlier version, which just indicated a limited service without saying what type of service.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2018, 09:23:42 » |
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SWR» running a shuttle Salisbury to Yeovil every two hours today according to RTT» .
They are to call at all stations but RTT shows that the first passed all. The return called at Tisbury. The next called at all stations.
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2018, 14:41:28 » |
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Thursday proposed timetable issued on link https://www.southwesternrailway.com/plan-my-journey/rmt-industrial-actionWest of England services are two hourly to Yeovil Jct outside the peak, with fast bus to Exeter BUT • Crewkerne, Feniton, Whimple, Cranbrook and Pinhoe will not be served AT ALL. Local buses may be available but your SWR» ticket will not be valid on these services. Please use Traveline to plan your journey. An update for coming strikes - from SWR to the TravelWatch SouthWest secretariat. Shared at SWR's request Dear all,
I am pleased to confirm that we will now be operating a rail replacement bus service from Honiton to Exeter St Davids stopping at all stations including Whimple and Feniton (operated by Stagecoach SW). It will be on an approximately two hourly frequency and will be in addition to the two-hourly Salisbury – Exeter St Davids bus service calling at Gillingham, Sherborne, Yeovil Junction, Crewkerne, Axminster, Honiton and Exeter Central. The detailed timetables will be available on our website shortly.
I would be very grateful if you could disseminate this via as many social media and website channels as possible including passing on to parish council contacts if you have them.
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2018, 15:53:16 » |
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Nice to see that SWR» have listened to the many complaints from passengers and stakeholders in South Somerset and East Devon.
It really wasn't acceptable that certain stations were left with no service at all. Crewkerne, Whimple and Feniton have no alternative commercial bus services to get folk to a railhead.
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"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
- Sir Terry Pratchett.
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2018, 20:56:28 » |
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Still no service for Tisbury and Templecombe
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I like to travel. It lets me feel I'm getting somewhere.
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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2018, 16:11:46 » |
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