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« Reply #120 on: January 05, 2020, 23:05:05 »

Send in Mark Hopwood...   Wink
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« Reply #121 on: January 06, 2020, 07:25:20 »

Can Mark bring anything different to the negotiating table that his predecessor couldn’t if the same rules laid down by the Dft still apply?

Maybe a different less hostile approach to the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers)?
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« Reply #122 on: January 06, 2020, 11:12:35 »

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The new boss of South Western Railway has told The Times that he won't give in to the demands of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Union even though almost half the company's weekend trains were cancelled last month because of a strike.

Mark Hopwood, who takes up his new job today, says that caving in over the role of guards on trains would sacrifice the company's ability to improve punctuality.
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« Reply #123 on: January 06, 2020, 15:53:01 »

The main challenge will presumably be the long running dispute over DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)). Most industrial disputes can be solved by compromise, but this one looks different.
Trains are either DOO or they are not, compromises are not easy in a yes/no situation like this.

Meanwhile, I hope that GWR (Great Western Railway) will not be neglected. Whilst I am not entirely in agreement with Mr. Hopwood, he is undoubtedly a man of wide experience who understands railways. And has had the courage to engage with this forum.
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« Reply #124 on: January 06, 2020, 18:38:41 »


Trains are either DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) or they are not, compromises are not easy in a yes/no situation like this.


Or they're DCO (Driver Controlled Operation), or DOO(P), or Driver and OBS.
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« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2020, 14:31:48 »

interesting article discussing this issue at:

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2020/guards-in-name-only-dwell-times-and-the-swr-guards-dispute/
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« Reply #126 on: January 23, 2020, 15:18:05 »

More good news for SWR» (South Western Railway - about):
https://twitter.com/PaulCliftonBBC/status/1220358867047145472
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« Reply #127 on: January 23, 2020, 16:28:00 »

It is interesting to note that just less than half of those entitled to vote actually voted to strike with slightly more in favour of action short of strike.  It almost suggests that those not in favour didn't bother to vote.  I am sure that Boris will use this should he propose any new anti-union legislation.
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« Reply #128 on: January 23, 2020, 17:27:02 »

I am sure that Boris will use this should he propose any new anti-union legislation.

That will certainly encourage more people to use their vote.  Either for or against.
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« Reply #129 on: February 24, 2020, 13:11:01 »

Can Mark bring anything different to the negotiating table that his predecessor couldn’t if the same rules laid down by the Dft still apply?

Maybe a different less hostile approach to the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers)?
Simple answer...no. But to be fair was he ever going to?

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« Reply #130 on: March 03, 2020, 17:40:47 »

According to Twitter next week’s strikes have been suspended. 
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« Reply #131 on: March 03, 2020, 17:43:06 »


RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) website confirms the suspension of strikes to allow further talks on Friday

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/swr-strike-action-suspended-to-allow-for-further-talks/
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« Reply #132 on: March 03, 2020, 19:32:04 »

Who blinked ??
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« Reply #133 on: April 13, 2021, 18:07:47 »

At last! From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):
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South Western Railway train guard dispute finally ends

A long-running dispute over the role of train guards which caused widespread passenger disruption on South Western Railway (SWR» (South Western Railway - about)) has ended.

The Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers)) union held 74 days of strikes between 2017 and 2020.

Its members had fought plans for drivers to operate the doors on new trains, instead of guards.

But it has now accepted the change after SWR guaranteed a guard would still be put on every passenger train.

Disruption caused by industrial action typically resulted in 800 trains being cancelled on every strike day, affecting tens of thousands of passengers each time.

The last strike came in January last year, but the dispute was still unresolved when the pandemic struck.
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« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2021, 19:38:35 »

From Rail Technology Magazine

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South Western Railway finds common ground to end guard dispute



Three years and 74 days of strike action it has taken for the South Western Railway company and the Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers)) to come to an agreement.

Causing overall a total of 800 trains being cancelled affecting tens of thousands of passengers.

The issue and area of disagreement concerned plans for drivers to operate the doors on new trains, instead of guards.

However there has been common ground found after this ongoing and ‘tug of war’ which raged through the pandemic with the latest strike being in January.

I find myself wondering

1. Why common ground could not be found three years and seventy FIVE days ago before any of the damaging strikes

2. When Waterloo was remodelled to look like King's Cross - as per the illustration above
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