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Author Topic: 7.01 from Maidenhead to Paddington  (Read 27152 times)
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« Reply #150 on: January 13, 2020, 08:45:47 am »

Another great start to the day.
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« Reply #151 on: January 14, 2020, 08:46:03 am »

After the fun of getting home last night - Twyford being dropped from a couple of the services was really hoping for a smooth journey in.

Sadly not. Platform at Twyford was rammed so I'm guessing an earlier service was cancelled or ran fast to Paddington. As I couldn't get to my regular spot decided to take the drastic step of trying the rear 4 carriages. Didn't even get close. Was still queuing to get on when the TFL person told us to move back up the platform as the train was departing. Eventually ended up in carriage 9 which was standing room only.

Is this really the culmination of billions of pounds of investment in trains, track, signals and stations? A service that subjectively feels as bad as any period over the last couple of years. Talking to my fellow commuters we were all quite angry that this appears to be as good as it gets.
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« Reply #152 on: January 14, 2020, 10:45:43 am »

The previous train was indeed cancelled, well, had the Twyford stop removed as it was running 20 minutes late.  The delay was due to a freight train with braking issues.

The culmination comes ones the Elizabeth Line opens I suppose?  At least the train you did get was on time and formed of 12-carriages - I had feared it might be a victim of 'more than the usual number of trains needing repair' syndrome, but I don't think it has been shortformed yet?

I see the 07:07 called at Maidenhead despite being 6 minutes late from Reading, though it lost a further 6 minutes to Paddington.  Perhaps words have been had with those making the decisions?
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« Reply #153 on: January 14, 2020, 11:50:34 am »

I was just about to say thanks/well done for the 7.07 being allowed to stop today at Maidenhead despite being slightly late. 

Tuesday is in my estimation Ďpeak unreliability dayí and I feel the freight train that shuffles through is something to do with it.

Personally Iíve abandoned the 7.01/7.07 completely and have moved to the 6.45.  I wouldnít choose to be getting up even earlier but that choice has been removed from me by GWR and the unreliability of the 7.xx services.  For the record the 6.45 appears quite reliable but was shortformed today so a lot of grumpy standing people at Slough.

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« Reply #154 on: January 14, 2020, 12:57:23 pm »

The previous train was indeed cancelled, well, had the Twyford stop removed as it was running 20 minutes late.  The delay was due to a freight train with braking issues.

The culmination comes ones the Elizabeth Line opens I suppose?  At least the train you did get was on time and formed of 12-carriages - I had feared it might be a victim of 'more than the usual number of trains needing repair' syndrome, but I don't think it has been shortformed yet?

I see the 07:07 called at Maidenhead despite being 6 minutes late from Reading, though it lost a further 6 minutes to Paddington.  Perhaps words have been had with those making the decisions?

But what about the one before that? The 06:26 (1P92) was on time, yet it too non-stopped at Twyford and then stopped at Maidenhead. Maidenhead's 06:45 doesn't have a Twyford stop to not do. So Today Maidenhead got the sweeties, and Twyford the empty packet - and probably loads of people saying "if I'd known how late I'd be I'd have got on the TfL train".
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« Reply #155 on: January 14, 2020, 01:10:50 pm »

The previous train was indeed cancelled, well, had the Twyford stop removed as it was running 20 minutes late.  The delay was due to a freight train with braking issues.

The culmination comes ones the Elizabeth Line opens I suppose?  At least the train you did get was on time and formed of 12-carriages - I had feared it might be a victim of 'more than the usual number of trains needing repair' syndrome, but I don't think it has been shortformed yet?

I see the 07:07 called at Maidenhead despite being 6 minutes late from Reading, though it lost a further 6 minutes to Paddington.  Perhaps words have been had with those making the decisions?

Thanks for the update. Hasn't been shortformed yet but I think allowing a bit more time for boarding would make a big difference but then we know the timetable is very aggressive on timings. I'm not going to try using the back 5 coaches again.

Has a review date for the new timetable been set as I think there are a few issues with Maidenhead/Twyford as well as the London centric issues mentioned by other posters?
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« Reply #156 on: January 14, 2020, 02:08:15 pm »

But what about the one before that? The 06:26 (1P92) was on time, yet it too non-stopped at Twyford and then stopped at Maidenhead. Maidenhead's 06:45 doesn't have a Twyford stop to not do.

Are you sure?  I can find no reference to any alterations to 1P92 today?

Just for clarification the freight train that was the cause of the delay to the train that definitely didnít stop at Twyford wasnít the one that has got in the way of trains at that time on the morning before.  This was a Whatley Quarry to Appleford service that doesnít go east of Reading at all, but caused the delay in the Newbury area.  Though itís not even booked to go that way as it should go via Melksham!
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« Reply #157 on: January 14, 2020, 02:18:04 pm »

Just for clarification the freight train that was the cause of the delay to the train that definitely didnít stop at Twyford wasnít the one that has got in the way of trains at that time on the morning before.  This was a Whatley Quarry to Appleford service that doesnít go east of Reading at all, but caused the delay in the Newbury area.  Though itís not even booked to go that way as it should go via Melksham!

Goodness knows what was going on this morning ... the 06:12 Frome to Paddington which serves stations via Newbury got diverted via Melksham ... 7 late from Westbury, 8 late by the time it got to Reading and probably near as darn it empty by the time it had skipped all the stops from Pewsey to Theale on its normal route.
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« Reply #158 on: January 14, 2020, 02:36:24 pm »

But what about the one before that? The 06:26 (1P92) was on time, yet it too non-stopped at Twyford and then stopped at Maidenhead. Maidenhead's 06:45 doesn't have a Twyford stop to not do.

Are you sure?  I can find no reference to any alterations to 1P92 today?

Well, no, I can only go by what's reported. I based that on RTT showing the actual arrival time as "pass", the same as it does for 1K03. But looking wider, in this case RTT's in the minority - OTT shows a call and so does liverail. Mind you, they all show slightly different times, as does RTT for the departure - and not just rounding the fractions either, it's whole minutes. Maybe that's telling me something about the data feeds, though I've no idea what.
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« Reply #159 on: January 14, 2020, 05:47:20 pm »

If anyone returns on the 17:37 to Maidenhead (9-car Paignton IET) it was absolutely crush loaded in the back part of the train.  Coaches B and A much quieter though - two people stood up and a handful of seats available.  I know where Iíd rather position myself!
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« Reply #160 on: January 14, 2020, 07:12:46 pm »

"if I'd known how late I'd be I'd have got on the TfL train".

Isn't that the idea? Cancel the big bad GWRs services, so that the oh-so wonderful Crossrail to Reading can be justified...  Wink
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« Reply #161 on: January 14, 2020, 07:28:28 pm »

"if I'd known how late I'd be I'd have got on the TfL train".

Isn't that the idea? Cancel the big bad GWRs services, so that the oh-so wonderful Crossrail to Reading can be justified...  Wink

Whose idea? Not Network Rail's - they have wanted to get the semifasts off the Main Lines since long before Crossrail was was approved to go to Reading (and even long before Crossrail was approved full stop).
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« Reply #162 on: January 15, 2020, 09:19:25 am »

All good today although again pretty much standing room only by Maidenhead in carriage 4 at least.
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« Reply #163 on: January 21, 2020, 08:45:49 am »

Seemed to be lots of cancellations today although the 06.54 from Twyford ran albeit late.

Not too crowded at Twyford as the Henley connection had broken down. I know it probably makes me a bad person but I gave a little smile as it meant I had a better chance of getting a seat.
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« Reply #164 on: January 22, 2020, 07:59:03 am »

7.07 cancelled again today.  Thats a 66% failure rate this week.  I dont know how to get the data, but wondering what is the cancellation (for whatever reason) rate of this service since the new timetable was introduced?
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