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« on: August 25, 2018, 18:14:31 » |
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A collision between a train and a car driven by a driving test candidate has killed the 18-year-old candidate. The train is damaged but driver and passengers are uninjured, the examiner managed to jump free of the car before the collision. It seems the driver failed to stop as she approached the level crossing, which has signs but no barriers or lights. Either she or the examiner then attempted an emergency stop, the car came to a stop on the tracks with the engine stalled. Several attempts were made to restart the engine, but without success. A passenger train from Nowy Targ to Zakopane then collided with the car, the driver suffered severe injuries and died in hospital. Somehow the examiner managed to jump out of the car. Video from the car, the train and a nearby industrial area is being examined to try to ascertain why the car did not stop at the Stop sign – according to test regulations, failure to stop is an automatic instant fail and end of the test and if a candidate fails to brake in time, the examiner should – and whether it was the candidate or the examiner who then braked, bringing the vehicle to a stop on the tracks.   |
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2018, 20:14:38 » |
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Utterly tragic. Why on Earth examine over such a route and if so, be absolutely proactive to ensure compliance with the road signs/requirements. Failing to observe a stop sign is a fail. Fail to stop before a level crossing is a death sentence.
The examination system here appears to have lost the plot. This was so foreseeable and totally unnecessary.
As an enquiry: Has anyone here driven over a level crossing on their driving test? If so, was it gated or controlled?
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 22:20:37 » |
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I presume there are set routes which are used, but I don't know. Uncontrolled level crossings are more common in Poland than here, so it might make sense to include them on a test. The report I read did imply that the examiner might be held liable for the collision – legally, the examiner is responsible for anything the examinee might do – but it's not yet clear who actually did what. But whoever ends up being held responsible, yes it's a tragedy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 12:31:08 » |
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In view of the prevalence of level crossings in Poland, it seems reasonable to include correct use of such crossings in the driving test.
Whilst the loss of life is unfortunate, the odd accident may be unavoidable if the driving test is to simulate actual driving conditions.
If level crossing use is to be excluded from the test due to the risks, then perhaps the test should also exclude driving in bad weather, another known risk factor.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 15:40:40 » |
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I can't agree with you here Broadgage. Bad weather has been used to cancel driving tests here. I had one cancelled many years back due to snow and ice. The candidate's knowledge of level crossing usage of level crossings could have been tested verbally, as in:- "take me through ...", "what would you do if .. ?"
Anyone here sat a driving test in Lincoln? I believe it has a lot of level crossings.
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 17:03:05 » |
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I'm taking my bus test in mid Cornwall next week, and there is a level crossing on both registered test routes.
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Oxonhutch
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 18:00:50 » |
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... there is a level crossing on both registered test routes.
What kind of crossings are they, if I may ask? |
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2018, 06:15:53 » |
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... there is a level crossing on both registered test routes.
What kind of crossings are they, if I may ask? Honest answer. I don’t know the variations of level crossings. It is the crossing on Newquay branch near to St Columb Road station |
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 11:00:09 » |
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Honest answer. I don’t know the variations of level crossings. It is the crossing on Newquay branch near to St Columb Road station
Thanks for that. At least that one is a half barrier crossing. I wouldn't fancy doing the next one in a double-decker !  |
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 16:28:35 » |
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Honest answer. I don’t know the variations of level crossings. It is the crossing on Newquay branch near to St Columb Road station
Thanks for that. At least that one is a half barrier crossing. I wouldn't fancy doing the next one in a double-decker ! all bus services go down Newquay Rd next to the Queen and Railway pub. |
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