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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 12:05:54 »

Surely the main problem here is with the BoJ (Break of Journey) not being properly considered when planning the software for the ticket gate?  If the barrier had understood the rules, the passenger would not have had to go through this palaver.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2018, 13:26:20 »

BOJ is far clunkier than you might think and relies on a matrix of valid origin/destination pairs specific to that station being supplied to the gate. It doesn't do anything clever with Journey Planner data or similar, and also has a fairly low limit on the number of stations which can be stored. All this means that some fairly logical journeys will not be given BOJ by the gate, so gateline staff have to intervene...
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2018, 14:01:30 »

Surely the main problem here is with the BoJ (Break of Journey) not being properly considered when planning the software for the ticket gate?  If the barrier had understood the rules, the passenger would not have had to go through this palaver.

How would you do that? I guess for some journeys it is easy. But many journeys can be done multiple ways, and depending on which route you take, that will change if your are having a BoJ or if you have actually overrode and should be charged extra.

The real problem is the staff. Gateline rules are great for the simple stuff, and then staff should be able to fill in the rest. If the staff aren't trained, or do not accept the rules, then that is the real failing.
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