Jubilee Tube travels with doors wide open!

[whole diary]

[ChrisB]

I hope the RAIB^▸ (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) are investigating!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/shocking-moment-tube-train-travels-along-jubilee-line-with-passengers-on-board-and-doors-wide-open-a3926606.html

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/jubilee-line-tube-filmed-hurtling-along-with-doors-wide-open-11489882

[CMRail]

I hope the RAIB^▸ (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) are investigating!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/shocking-moment-tube-train-travels-along-jubilee-line-with-passengers-on-board-and-doors-wide-open-a3926606.html

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/jubilee-line-tube-filmed-hurtling-along-with-doors-wide-open-11489882

I saw this on twitter and couldn’t believe it. The safety features must be awful, the driver not paying attention and the passengers not using the emergency alarm handle. Awful.

[ChrisB]

I side with the passengers - the guy did tweet that there were at least 10 doors open. Assuming all one side in his carriage were open, would you stand and approach a vestibule where the draft is unknown & may suck you out? I'm not sure I would....now if those alert buttons were in the seating areas and NOT in  just the vestibules, easily reached.

[stuving]

I side with the passengers - the guy did tweet that there were at least 10 doors open. Assuming all one side in his carriage were open, would you stand and approach a vestibule where the draft is unknown & may suck you out? I'm not sure I would....now if those alert buttons were in the seating areas and NOT in  just the vestibules, easily reached.

Yes, and there are even stronger reasons too. Stopping a tube train is a tunnel is never a good idea, as it makes whatever you do next more difficult and take much longer. Worse, while there is a small risk a passenger may go near the doors and fall out while the train is moving, there is a much larger risk someone will try to get out once it's stopped. I'm not sure how big the clearance is in Jubilee Line tunnels, but it's still a bad idea to go wandering off into it.

[ChrisB]

This incident was above ground, between Finchley Road & West Hampstead,....

[Red Squirrel]

(Sigh) reminds me of the shocking 20 years before the last of the LDs were withdrawn, and I used to travel in and out of Bristol swinging on the pole on the open platform. Didn't Routemasters have them too?

[stuving]

This incident was above ground, between Finchley Road & West Hampstead,....

Ah - my mistake, Probably due to simultaneously reading the RAIB^▸ (Rail Accident Investigation Branch)'s NHG accident report (qv). Mind you, half the argument still applies.

[CJB666]

I hope the RAIB^▸ (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) are investigating!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/shocking-moment-tube-train-travels-along-jubilee-line-with-passengers-on-board-and-doors-wide-open-a3926606.html

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/jubilee-line-tube-filmed-hurtling-along-with-doors-wide-open-11489882

Seems like many station staff spend their working hours on Facebook or playing games or texting on smart phones. Maybe this has extended to the drivers too. In the US there have been a number of fatal crashes due to drivers (engineers.) texting whilst on the move, etc.


I saw this on twitter and couldn’t believe it. The safety features must be awful, the driver not paying attention and the passengers not using the emergency alarm handle. Awful.

[stuving]

There was a previous case a bit like this, on a Victoria Line train leaving Warren Street (RAIB^▸ (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) report 13/2012). That involved the train operator overriding the doors closed interlock and forgetting to shut the doors. However, in that case the operator got very confused about how the system worked in its non-automatic modes while trying to cope with a persistent but apparently false alarm from the sensitive door edges.

Given the presence of a door interlock system, I can only see a failure of that system, or its being overridden by an operator, as being the cause this time.