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Author Topic: Intercity Express Train (IET) failure, near Exeter, 13 September 2018  (Read 5073 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 08:48:34 pm »

1C24 platformed at Taunton, 1V64 waiting a platform and 1C93 arroaching at 20:49
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2018, 09:19:44 pm »

1C91 on the move south, 1C92, 1V64 and 1C93 queued at Tiverton loops with 1C94 approaching at 21:20.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2018, 09:29:39 pm »

Evacuation to the XC Voyager in rear is under way as of 2105.

I guessed wrong about keeping SLW going. Down main line has been closed as 'position of safety'.

I think there will be some serious questions asked about the timescales of this incident. Four hours between coming to a stand and starting evacuation is not good.

It is fortunate that there hasn't been any (at least not reported internally) self evacuation. I hope the on train environment has contributed to keeping people on board. And I trust that staff have provided regular updates and made regular warning announcements of the dangers of self evacuation. That said, four hours is unacceptable.
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2018, 09:54:01 pm »

Join the queue chaps!



Another two trains, 1C94 and 1V66 out of shot near Tiverton Loops.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2018, 09:59:16 pm »

Looks like evacuation to cess then. I guess they didn't want to suspend the single line working. Trains are already queued at Tiverton Loops.

1Z99 approaching failed train from behind...

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Could a Voyager couple up to an IET and rescue it if required to in an emergency ??
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What a shame ...
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2018, 10:00:08 pm »

The DML is closed because the evacuation is taking place in to the 6 foot as the cess is unsuitable.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2018, 10:06:53 pm »

As I understand this situation, it is two 5 car IETs coupled together, so why can't one rescue the other then??
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 10:23:30 pm »

As I understand this situation, it is two 5 car IETs coupled together, so why can't one rescue the other then??

If there is a total loss of air then it can't be moved
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2018, 10:25:42 pm »

Evacuation to the XC Voyager in rear is under way as of 2105.

I guessed wrong about keeping SLW going. Down main line has been closed as 'position of safety'.

I think there will be some serious questions asked about the timescales of this incident. Four hours between coming to a stand and starting evacuation is not good.

It is fortunate that there hasn't been any (at least not reported internally) self evacuation. I hope the on train environment has contributed to keeping people on board. And I trust that staff have provided regular updates and made regular warning announcements of the dangers of self evacuation. That said, four hours is unacceptable.


It has been proven that provided passengers are -
  • Kept well informed of what is happening
    Are sitting and not standing and squashed in like sardines
    Basic needs are met, drinks perhaps some food
They may not be the happiest of people but they will remain on the train, the key is good communications



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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2018, 10:27:50 pm »

As I understand this situation, it is two 5 car IETs coupled together, so why can't one rescue the other then??

Attempts were seemingly made to use the rear set. However the entire train was declared a failure. I'd guess the rear set had some sort of systems failure after the loss of air, preventing it building up its own independent vacuum. Maybe a 'computer says no' scenario.

The story has now made the media.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/passengers-evacuated-intercity-express-train-2002629

Plenty of factual errors in it but not good news for GWR and Hitachi.

I fancy Dan Panes might have a busy day tomorrow.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2018, 10:29:28 pm »

As I understand this situation, it is two 5 car IETs coupled together, so why can't one rescue the other then??
That option was suggested as one of the benefits of the down grade to DMU operation.
Did not help in this case though!
Lack of power in one unit should leave the other unit able to move the dead one, but in this case it is reported that one unit lost air, that would apply the brakes and prevent movement.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2018, 11:20:41 pm »

Passengers have now arrived back at a Exeter St Davids around six hours after the train ground to a halt.

Six hours.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2018, 12:10:19 am »

The errant train has now been moved to the loop at the former Tiverton Junction. Up line reopened.
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2018, 12:41:02 am »


The same day the M5 was closed reportedly from 0830 to 1800 by a crash involving HGV's and private cars. 2 dead, 2 serious injuries, 4 in hospital.

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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2018, 02:06:02 am »

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17:42 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:42
13/09/18 17:42 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:42 has been delayed at Exeter St Davids and is now 198 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.

Expected 03:00 ... at a first glance, I thought it was another two reports on the sleeper

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18:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 23:10
13/09/18 18:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 23:10 will call additionally at Saltash, Lostwithiel, Camborne, Hayle and St Erth.
It has been delayed between Taunton and Exeter St Davids and is now 195 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.

Expected 02:25
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