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« on: September 19, 2018, 18:47:13 »

Bedwyn (turnback siding), Warminster (on the main line) ... I'm looking to come up with a list of where trains can turn back beyond their final stop - though beyond the platform.   I think there are quite a few others - either routinely done, or done if engineering works or short running require it.  I think Clifton Down might fit this description?

Apart from needing the extra running time to the turning point (and needing that signalled such that reversals can be done there, and the extra occupancy of lines if there's no siding, are there any other reasons it can't / won't be done?
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 19:02:36 »

Happens at Hereford and at Oxford.

Used to happen on platform 1 at Worcester Foregate St. The two platforms there are separate single lines. On platform 2 (the northern one, used for trains to/from Birmingham), it has always been possible to reverse in the station. But the signalling was different on P1, and a train from the Oxford direction that terminated there had to go across the river to Henwick to reverse. But a major advance means that you can now reverse in P1 as well!
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2018, 19:09:23 »

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 19:25:59 »

At Paignton where certain trains reverse in the sidings at Goodrington
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 19:47:09 »

Here's an article listing several stations where this is done on the London Underground - https://londonist.com/2015/01/how-to-get-a-guaranteed-seat-on-the-tube
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 19:59:30 »

Here's an article listing several stations where this is done on the London Underground - https://londonist.com/2015/01/how-to-get-a-guaranteed-seat-on-the-tube

Interesting ... and now that you have me thinking "Underground" ... Waterloo!   (on The Drain)
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2018, 20:02:58 »

And I suspect Yate this week too during engineering works.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2018, 20:22:43 »

Happens at Hereford and at Oxford. Used to happen on platform 1 at Worcester Foregate St.
And while we're on the Cotswold Line, there's the Malvern Wells turnback, too, just beyond Great Malvern station.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2018, 20:35:37 »

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 20:38:56 »

Not sure if Clifton Down requires a reverse beyond the station.

If up trains (toward Avonmouth) are being turned back there then they'll be signalled into the bi-directional down (toward Bristol TM(resolve)) platform.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 21:22:11 »

Maidenhead, turnback siding between UP and DN Reliefs, and into Maidenhead carriage sidings.  Also since re-signalling its possible for trains on the UP Main to cross over at Maidenhead East onto the DN Main and return via plat 1 towards Reading, it would also seem feasible to do this from the UP (or DN Relief wrong road) to the DN Main
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2018, 22:39:30 »

In practice, Shalford has served as a turnback for Guildford - hence why this obscure station few have heard of appears as a destination on the North Downs line.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2018, 22:54:07 »

Doesn’t Cardiff Central not have bi-directional signalling?
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2018, 23:26:07 »

Filton Abbey Wood currently during the Bristol Parkway blockade. Trains reverse on the Filton Chord behind BL2052 signal.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/BRST052/2018/09/21/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2018, 23:38:43 »

There is an unusual one at Bath Spa. Although the platforms are reversibly signalled, there is one train that is shunted out of the way to avoid blocking up the station until the departure time of its next working. On Mondays to Fridays the 15:58 Bristol Parkway to Bath Spa service (via the 'Rhubarb') then runs as empty stock to Bathampton Junction, reverses on the up main behind B202 signal, and returns to Bath Spa to form the 16:45 Bath Spa to Bristol Parkway service (16:49 to Filton Abbey Wood for the duration of the blockade).

If a Weymouth bound service is to be terminated at Dorchester West, the train will normally shunt out over the junction, behind a position light and back into the other platform. Note that when this is not possible, for example engineering works closing Dorchester Junction, a pilotman will be provided to allow the train to start in the up direction from the down platform.

A Southampton bound train can be terminated at Romsey. There is a position light just beyond the junction on the Chandlers Ford line that allows a train to shunt out behind it and back into the Salisbury bound platform.
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