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Author Topic: Evesham incident and possible follow-up strike action  (Read 16691 times)
Richard Fairhurst
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« on: November 05, 2018, 11:35:11 »

On the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) website:

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RAIL UNION RMT will ballot all guards and drivers at Paddington Depot for strike action and action short of a strike over the victimisation and decision to sack Great Western Railway (GWR (Great Western Railway)) rail guard and union activist Ben Frederick.

Frederick has been sacked following a disciplinary hearing this week after he was assaulted at Evesham Station by a member of the public while working his train as a guard (train manager) on Saturday 11 August 2018.

I have no knowledge of the circumstances of this incident, but I don't think it's too controversial to say that Evesham passengers can sometimes be a handful...
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2018, 12:02:49 »

My understanding is that he hit back....but please correct me if I'm wrong
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2018, 12:18:59 »

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/members-updates/suspension-from-duty-b-frederick-train-manager--gwr251018/

To All Great Western Railway Members

Our Ref: BR2/4/12

25th October 2018


Dear Colleague

SUSPENSION FROM DUTY, B. FREDERICK, TRAIN MANAGER – GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY

I have received the following resolution from our Paddington No 1 Branch with regards to the above matter:

“This RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) Paddington No.1 branch deplores the decision of Great Western Railway (GWR (Great Western Railway)) to suspend our member Ben Frederick from duty pending investigation of a vexatious allegation against him of assault.

Bro’ Frederick was assaulted on duty at Evesham station by a member of the public when working his train as a Guard (Train Manager) on Saturday 11 August 2018. Bro’ Frederick reported the assault on him to his employer (GWR Duty Control) and to the British Transport Police on the same day. He was told that BTP (British Transport Police) would contact him to take a statement. He has never been contacted by BTP about his assault.

5 September 2018 Bro’ Frederick was suspended from duty by his employer pending investigation of an allegation that he had assaulted a member of the public on 11 August. He has been suspended for over a month in breach of GWR’s own guidelines and agreement with this union that investigatory suspensions of staff should not exceed 28 days.

Earlier this month when interviewed by an investigating manager he was shown CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) footage, which clearly shows the member of the public assaulting him by spitting at him and hitting him with a mobile phone. Bro’ Frederick was also verbally abused by the same person using racist insults. No complaint against Bro’ Frederick has been received by GWR from the member of the public and it appears that the employer has instigated the current investigation and suspension of our member.

This branch believes that GWR is failing to protect our members who are in the frontline of dealing with often abusive member of the public. We believe that GWR is abusing its own investigatory suspension policy. We note that Bro’ Frederick is a Health & Safety Representative for train managers at Paddington depot and a stalwart member of this union. We call on the NEC» (National Exhibition Centre - about) to ensure that Bro’ Frederick is given all legal and Industrial support to ensure he is reinstated without further delay.”

Your union’s National Executive Committee has recently considered the matter and note with grave concerns the sentiments contained within the resolution.

The RMT deplores the response from GWR following a member of the public racially abusing and physically assaulting Brother Frederick by spitting at him and hitting him repeatedly with a mobile phone, whilst he was carrying out his duties.

Instead of management fulfilling their duty to protect a member of frontline staff who found himself in a dangerous conflict situation, GWR levelled gross misconduct charges against Brother Frederick.

The Executive Committee has taken the decision to ballot all our GWR Guard and Driver members located at Paddington Depot for strike action and action short of a strike, unless Brother Frederick is immediately reinstated to his substantive role at his Disciplinary Hearing on Friday 26th October 2018.

Furthermore, I have written to GWR demanding that the scapegoating of frontline staff ends immediately and that management give a commitment to the RMT that our members who suffer abuse and assaults from members of the public are totally protected.

I will, of course, keep you fully advised on any further developments.

Best wishes.

Mick Cash
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2018, 12:22:25 »

More here with a lovely picture of the bruvvers. I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-to-go-ahead-with-ballot-of-paddington-depot-members/
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2018, 13:11:43 »

More here with a lovely picture of the bruvvers. I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-to-go-ahead-with-ballot-of-paddington-depot-members/


I'm with you there Bro' Taplow........... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2018, 13:13:58 »

A couple of them look suitably embarrassed.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2018, 13:23:19 »

They seem perfectly in tune with modern sentiment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOCWUgwiWs

I'll get my coat.

(And my loon-pants)
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2018, 13:36:53 »

More here with a lovely picture of the bruvvers. I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-to-go-ahead-with-ballot-of-paddington-depot-members/


I'm with you there Bro' Taplow........... Roll Eyes

They could at least have got someone to choreograph it to the extent that they all raised the same arm......🙈
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2018, 14:22:41 »

I notice they don't say what the CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) shows or doesn't show about the allegation of Frederick assulating the passenger.

And which religious order is Frederick a member of?
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2018, 15:11:57 »

As its a disciplinary matter, and could lead to a court case, I think not sharing any evidence is the correct thing to do?
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2018, 16:07:53 »

As its a disciplinary matter, and could lead to a court case, I think not sharing any evidence is the correct thing to do?
I did think that, but the press release from the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) did say that the CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) "clearly shows the member of the public assaulting him by spitting at him and hitting him with a mobile phone" and presumably the passenger could also be charged and it end up in court.

Is suspension a standard GWR (Great Western Railway) procedure if someone is accused of an assault?

There is something odd about this whole process as in  the press release it states he was suspended on the 5th Sept, the hearing was on the 26th Oct, yet they only called for a ballot on the 25th Oct (7 weeks later). It seems to me that they don't think they would win a ballot, otherwise they would have called it earlier, and are just trying to bounce the disciplinary hearing into lifting the suspension with the threat of a strike.

I notice that the hearing was set for the 26th Oct, so do we know what happened?
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2018, 16:11:59 »

He was dismissed - hence the ballot....
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2018, 16:58:26 »

Though he has the right to appeal, which hasn’t yet happened.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2018, 17:34:34 »

Though he has the right to appeal, which hasn’t yet happened.

Eh? Why would someone not appeal if they felt they'd been wrongly dismissed?
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2018, 20:38:50 »

I meant the appeal hearing hasn’t yet happened.  Mind you, I’m not sure if he has actually formally lodged an appeal yet.
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