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« on: November 06, 2018, 05:52:17 pm »

You have to feel sorry for all those creative types at Grimshaw, who beaver away for years to make your new station look pretty, only to find one of these gets plonked down in front of it (this is your first view of the station from the end of Station Road).
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2018, 05:55:05 pm »

Thankfully, on my usual commute, changing from Thames Valley to North Downs and vice versa I won't have to see this!

What ever happened to tasteful statues of royalty?
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2018, 05:57:30 pm »

They don't bring in the money!
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2018, 06:03:47 pm »

They don't bring in the money!

But to whom? Who owns that bit of land? (And it would still need planing permission, wouldn't it?)
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2018, 06:19:50 pm »

I presume the council do?  It is plonked right on where the old road used to go, so wasn't 'railway' land then, and the redevelopment of that area was a council led scheme IIRC, independant of (though linked with) the reading station remodelling.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2018, 06:37:51 pm »

I presume the council do?  It is plonked right on where the old road used to go, so wasn't 'railway' land then, and the redevelopment of that area was a council led scheme IIRC, independant of (though linked with) the reading station remodelling.

Yep, used to be a road - and that's the first time I've ever heard Reading station described as "pretty"!
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2018, 09:03:11 pm »

I did find its planning documents (application 180410), which don't say (that I can find) who owns the site - so perhaps it is the council and they are not proud of themselves. There is a heritage statement from the applicants, and an assessment from the planners which sees no adverse issues. But then "heritage" consists only of what's got a listing, so the Three Guineas and a few things further away. However, the five public comments (one from the owners of Thames Tower) and the Conservation Area Appraisal Committee are all agin' it, the CAAC quite vehemently so.

The bit of the heritage statement that refers to visual impact in general, rather than listed stuff, reads:
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4.10 While it is recognised that the proposed digital screen will be noticeable in views of the listed former Station building, its location has been well considered in this context. In this regard, the proposed screen will be positioned so that it reads against the backdrop of the circa 2014 footbridge addition at the western end of the station. This will ensure that the proposed screen will not impede the key views of the heritage asset from the western end of Blagrave Street looking northwest, in particular (Plate 1 and Plate 2). It is also important to note that the screen will be obscured in other views, such as that from the northern end of Station Road, given the presence of Thames House (Plate 3). To the southwest of the station the terrain falls away beyond the entrance to the 2014 footbridge addition (i.e. Station Hill), which combined with the orientation of the screen (facing southeast), will lessen its prominence when read against the listed former Station building.

That bit about "it reads against the backdrop of the circa 2014 footbridge addition at the western end of the station" is a bit cheeky, isn't it? Certainly if you look back at the council's plans for the "public realm", and some councillors' aspirations for a station building of quality, the thing just looks all wrong.

But what did the plans say it would look like? This is Maxx Media's picture in the planning statement that's closest to mine. From there, of course you can't see the station - I went forward to the corner of Thames Tower, where you first can, so the lamp post is in my picture.
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