HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

PhilWakely

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HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« on: November 30, 2018, 18:06:45 »

During the Whiteball Tunnel blockade in February/March 2019 there will be a requirement to divert West of England services over the ex-LSWR^▸ route to Exeter. I understand that the intention is to make maximum use of the remaining available full HST^▸ sets. However, by that time, Old Oak Common will have been closed, so there will potentially be a lack of overnight stabling facilities for HST sets. Therefore, logically, the first couple of Down services would be covered by IET^▸ units.

Whilst discussing the overnight IET clearance testing run over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter on 30/11 here, the remote possibility of the bank between Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central not being cleared for IET running in time for the Whiteball Tunnel blockade was mentioned.

Should that remote possibility become reality, what overnight stabling for HSTs would be available at the Paddington end? Or, will there be a requirement for overnight EHSTs from Laira or St Phillips Marsh?

*** Edited to correct a couple of speeling mistooks ***


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phile

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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2018, 18:36:09 »

Quote from: PhilWakely on November 30, 2018, 18:06:45

During the Whiteball Tunnel blockade in February/March 2019 there will be a requirement to divert West of England services over the ex-LSWR^▸ route to Exeter. I understand that the intention is to make maximum use of the remaining available full HST^▸ sets. However, by that time, Old Oak Common will have been closed, so there will potentially be a lack of overnight stabling facilities for HST sets. Therefore, logically, the first couple of Down services would be covered by IET^▸ units.

Whilst discussing the overnight IET clearance testing run over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter on 31/11 here, the remote possibility of the bank between Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central not being cleared for IET running in time for the Whitball Tunnel blockade was mentioned.

Should that remote possibility become reality, what overnight stabling for HSTs would be available? Or, will there be a requirement for overnight EHSTs from Laira or St Phillips Marsh?

There is already a thread here but seems the Exeter Central to Exeter St Davids called off last night so still a known issue

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20483.0


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Adelante_CCT

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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2018, 19:04:51 »

It has been mentioned that Reading TCD will be used for the odd HST^▸ , not sure if that is confirmed or not?


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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2018, 22:02:22 »

Reading TCD sees one HST^▸ stable during weekday afternoons. I wonder whether overnight stabling may be precluded due to lack of space.

All HST diagrams until year end have no overnight stabling at the London end. Sets start and end their day at either Laira, Long Rock or St Phillips Marsh, excepting one HST that overnights at Worcester.

Weekday HST diagrams from 10th to 28th December.

IW1
1A71 04.51 Plymouth - Paddington
1C74 09.03 Paddington - Plymouth
1A87 12.55 Plymouth - Paddington
1C90 17.03 Paddington - Penzance

IW2
1A82 09.00 Penzance - Paddington
1C86 15.03 Paddington - Penzance

IW3
1A79 06.47 Penzance - Paddington
1C82 13.03 Paddington - Plymouth
1A96 16.57 Plymouth - Paddington
1C98 21.03 Paddington - Plymouth

IW4
2T04 07.06 Newton Abbot - Paignton
1A12 07.48 Paignton - Paddington
1C81 12.33 Paddington - Taunton
1A89 15.33 Taunton - Paddington
1C93 18.33 Paddington - Exeter SD (FO Plymouth)

IW5
1A72 05.53 Plymouth - Paddington
1D20 09.50 Paddington - Oxford
1P26 12.01 Oxford - Paddington
(ECS^▸ to Reading TCD & stable)
(ECS back to Paddington)
1C91 17.33 Paddington - Paignton
2A65 21.35 Paignton - Newton Abbot

IW6
1C40 07.02 Plymouth - Penzance
1A85 10.00 Penzance - Paddington
1C88 16.03 Paddington - Penzance

IW7
1A81 07.41 Penzance - Paddington
1C84 14.03 Paddington - Penzance

IW8
1A75 05.05 Penzance - Paddington
1C78 11.03 Paddington - Penzance
1A91 15.00 Plymouth - Paddington
1C94 19.03 Paddington - Plymouth (FO Penzance)

IW9
1A31 19.30 Bristol TM^‡ - Paddington
1W42 21.48 Paddington - Worcester SH

IW10
1P04 05.11 Worcester SH - Paddington
1W00 08.21 Paddington - Hereford
1P31 12.09 Hereford - Paddington
1C23 17.00 Paddington - Bristol TM

IW11
1A06 06.20 Weston SM - Paddington
1C08 09.30 Paddington - Bristol TM
1A16 12.00 Bristol TM - Paddington
1B42 14.15 Paddington - Cardiff
1L82 16.56 Cardiff - Paddington
1C28 19.30 Paddington - Weston SM

IW12
1A02 05.30 Bristol TM - Paddington
1B10 07.45 Paddington - Swansea
1L55 11.29 Swansea - Paddington
1C19 15.00 Paddington - Bristol TM
1A26 17.00 Bristol TM - Paddington
1U28 19.12 Paddington - Bristol TM

IW13
1A70 06.05 Frome - Paddington
1C06 08.30 Paddington - Bristol TM
1A14 11.00 Bristol TM - Paddington
1W27 13.22 Paddington - Worcester FS
1P37 15.51 Worcester FS - Paddington
1W03 18.22 Paddington - Hereford


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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2018, 23:12:46 »

Quote from: bignosemac on November 30, 2018, 22:02:22

What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR^▸ the nerve to make it an IET^▸ .


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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 00:10:55 »

Quote from: REVUpminster on November 30, 2018, 23:12:46

What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR^▸ the nerve to make it an IET^▸ .

Shown on RTT^» as IET from 10th December.


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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2018, 08:01:39 »

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What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR^▸ the nerve to make it an IET^▸ .

Well they are going to have to sooner or later as by the Spring GWR won’t be operating HSTs^▸ on IC^▸ routes.


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Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed

« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 10:30:56 »

Quote from: bignosemac on November 30, 2018, 22:02:22

Reading TCD sees one HST^▸ stable during weekday afternoons. I wonder whether overnight stabling may be precluded due to lack of space.

Might be space or a need to keep one power car per set running if there is no shore line - and with the current legal case regarding depot noise referred to in the annual accounts it might have been thought prudent to avoid the practice at night.


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