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Author Topic: Cut-down HSTs on Cardiff - Taunton?  (Read 499 times)
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« on: November 08, 2018, 08:02:58 pm »

Today I noticed "HST 2+4" stop boards at Severn Tunnel Junction and Patchway stations.  Perhaps they have been there some time and I have just been unobservant.  I remember back in April being told that cut-down HSTs would be used on selected Cardiff - Taunton services but, having heard nothing more of this plan since, wondered if it had been quietly dropped.  After all, if only 3 are being built, surely they will be fully utilised between Plymouth and Penzance?

Does anyone have any more information about this?  It would be great to have some extra capacity on the usually crush-loaded 0800 ex Cardiff and 1607 return from Taunton.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 08:07:22 pm »

Today I noticed "HST 2+4" stop boards at Severn Tunnel Junction and Patchway stations.  Perhaps they have been there some time and I have just been unobservant.  I remember back in April being told that cut-down HSTs would be used on selected Cardiff - Taunton services but, having heard nothing more of this plan since, wondered if it had been quietly dropped.  After all, if only 3 are being built, surely they will be fully utilised between Plymouth and Penzance?

Does anyone have any more information about this?  It would be great to have some extra capacity on the usually crush-loaded 0800 ex Cardiff and 1607 return from Taunton.

There are going to be eleven as I recall.  First one in service, second one arrives this month and will be on staff training runs up as far as Cardiff, others arriving by (?) May next year.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 08:16:35 pm »

Pilning next ?..
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 08:57:08 pm »

Today I noticed "HST 2+4" stop boards at Severn Tunnel Junction and Patchway stations.  Perhaps they have been there some time and I have just been unobservant.  I remember back in April being told that cut-down HSTs would be used on selected Cardiff - Taunton services but, having heard nothing more of this plan since, wondered if it had been quietly dropped.  After all, if only 3 are being built, surely they will be fully utilised between Plymouth and Penzance?

Does anyone have any more information about this?  It would be great to have some extra capacity on the usually crush-loaded 0800 ex Cardiff and 1607 return from Taunton.

There are going to be eleven as I recall.  First one in service, second one arrives this month and will be on staff training runs up as far as Cardiff, others arriving by (?) May next year.

The second one came south last week I believe?
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 07:54:51 pm »

I suppose the date they are all converted is dependent on when the last few HSTs are displaced by IETs?  Have Scotrail got all their ex-GWR HSTs now?

Something I was wondering about these cut-down sets - do they have the engines in both power cars operational?  4500 hp for a 2+4 train seems rather generous, but there's not enough weight in a power car to give decent acceleration if only one is producing power.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 09:36:55 pm »

I suppose the date they are all converted is dependent on when the last few HSTs are displaced by IETs?  Have Scotrail got all their ex-GWR HSTs now?

Something I was wondering about these cut-down sets - do they have the engines in both power cars operational?  4500 hp for a 2+4 train seems rather generous, but there's not enough weight in a power car to give decent acceleration if only one is producing power.

The one thatís in Cornwall and Devon has both engines running, and goes like **** off a shovel. Locking up to the GTi nickname!
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