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Author Topic: Fatality at Bristol Temple Meads (Dec 2018)  (Read 4463 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 06:48:02 pm »

I have noticed recently that new warning stickers have been applied on and around HST windows.

..and on board announcements.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 08:38:00 pm »

I have noticed recently that new warning stickers have been applied on and around HST windows.

GBE and I noticed them on our journey back from Westbury on Saturday.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2019, 10:09:02 am »

I don't think we should be speculating on what will come out of the investigation.

Official report just released

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/839604/R142019_191016_Twerton.pdf

At about 22:04 hrs on Saturday 1 December 2018 a passenger was leaning out of the
window of a moving train when her head came into contact with a lineside tree branch
near Twerton, a suburb of Bath. The passenger suffered fatal injuries. The train, a
Great Western Railway service from London Paddington to Exeter St David’s, was
travelling at approximately 75 mph (120 km/h) at the time.
On the type of coach making up the train, opening windows are provided to allow
passengers to reach through and operate the external door handles when the train
is in a station. This is the only means by which passengers can open the train doors.
However, other than warning signs, there is nothing to prevent passengers from
opening and leaning out of such windows when trains are away from stations and
moving. The accident occurred because the passenger did this when branches from a
lineside tree were in close proximity to the train.
A possible underlying factor was that Great Western Railway’s risk assessment
process had not historically identified the risk of passengers or staff being injured as
a result of putting their heads out of windows on moving trains. Consequently, Great
Western Railway had not provided adequate mitigation measures to protect against
the risk.
The RAIB has made four recommendations and identified two learning points.
One recommendation is addressed to operators of mainline passenger trains,
including charter operators, and seeks to minimise the likelihood of passengers
leaning out of droplight windows when a train is away from stations. A second
recommendation, is addressed to operators of heritage railways and seeks to improve
their management of the risks associated with passengers leaning out of vehicles.
The third recommendation is addressed to Great Western Railway and seeks to
reduce the potential for hazards associated with its operations being overlooked.
The fourth recommendation is addressed to RSSB and seeks to ensure that its advice
on emergency and safety signs reflects the level of risk associated with the hazard
being mitigated.
The learning points reinforce the importance of undertaking regular tree inspections
and the value of train operators having
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2019, 10:35:18 am »

I was thinking about incidents such as these when I saw this in a leaflet promoting the Gotthard Panorama Express which I picked up a couple of weeks ago on a train from Zurich.

Thanks to Graham for help on uploading images.

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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2019, 04:42:57 pm »

From The BBC - a more reader-friendly report with some pictures from today' full publication.

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A woman was killed as she leaned out of a train window below an inadequate warning sign, a report said.

Bethan Roper, 28, was hit in the head by a tree branch while on board a Great Western Railway (GWR) service travelling at about 75mph (120km/h) near Twerton, Bath.

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) also noted trees along the route had not been inspected since 2009.
Signs around the window were updated after Ms Roper's death.

The investigation said Ms Roper was returning to Penarth, South Wales, from Bath Spa station on 1 December 2018.
She was with friends, and the RAIB said it believed "at least one other friend leant out of the window before [Ms Roper]".

Witnesses told investigators Ms Roper had her head out of the window for a few seconds "before falling back into the vestibule".

Despite the efforts of other passengers, including some with medical training, she was pronounced dead at Bristol station, the report said.

The full report goes very much more thoroughly into how the tree branch came to be so close to the train and does not major on the signage the same way that the BBC report does.


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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2019, 09:02:52 am »

Is there any chance this thread could be renamed, as the incident happened nowhere near Temple Meads? Every time I see the thread name I think "Oh no, has someone died at Temple Meads now?" and then find it is referring to last year's sad incident at Twerton.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2019, 11:08:16 am »

Is there any chance this thread could be renamed, as the incident happened nowhere near Temple Meads? Every time I see the thread name I think "Oh no, has someone died at Temple Meads now?" and then find it is referring to last year's sad incident at Twerton.

I've added 'December 2018' to the thread title - I take your point that the accident didn't happen there, but I don't wish to confuse things further.
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