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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 18:27:15 » |
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That's the trouble with Voyargers you've got a a large diesel engine generator and radiators plus air conditioning etc. in a sealed unit under the train where it gets no cooling.
If you want 10 or over hp per ton (diesel) stick it in two power cars with a set of Mark 3 s or better still an 87 and mark threes with a DVT‡ don't stick it underneath the coach. Unfortunately the 87 solution reuires a lot more wires to slung.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 18:38:50 » |
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not the first time a voyager has had fire probs.
a few years ago virgin stopped the fleet after an electical cupboard containing 3 phase blew up while being serviced in barton hill
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 19:28:19 » |
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That's the trouble with Voyargers you've got a a large diesel engine generator and radiators plus air conditioning etc. in a sealed unit under the train where it gets no cooling.
If you want 10 or over hp per ton (diesel) stick it in two power cars with a set of Mark 3 s or better still an 87 and mark threes with a DVT‡ don't stick it underneath the coach. Unfortunately the 87 solution reuires a lot more wires to slung.
Anyone remember that when Virgin won the XC▸ franchise their franchise proposal was loco + coaches. If I recall, all the other (losing) propositions were DMUs▸ . But sometime in the next year it became the multiple unit proposition which we now have. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 19:45:50 » |
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What do you expect when the transformers on the roof reach over 400^c when braking?
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 21:48:45 » |
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Voyager..probably the worst train in the world
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 22:54:07 » |
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... all that methane gas from the retention tanks being sucked into the air conditioning unit - bound to be a fire risk ...  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 23:00:22 » |
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... all that methane gas from the retention tanks being sucked into the air conditioning unit - bound to be a fire risk ... Perhaps the result of an unusally large passenger flow..... |
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 23:01:57 » |
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Oooh, er ...! |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 23:02:27 » |
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 02:15:40 » |
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Four fire crews and an ambulance were called to the fire, involving an Arriva CrossCountry Voyager train to Derby, at 4.25pm (link below.) http://www.oxfordmail.net/news/headlines/display.var.2122245.0.train_fire_is_out.phpA small fire was found in the air vents and about 100 passengers were evacuated. A spokesman for Network Rail said the train was moved from the line by 4.45pm and predicted only minor delays for passengers. A spokesman for Arriva said all evacuated passengers were put on a replacement train. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 02:22:29 » |
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A spokesman for Arriva said all evacuated passengers were put on a replacement train.
... where they all breathed a (fresh air) sigh of relief, hopefully? |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 03:12:28 » |
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... all that methane gas from the retention tanks being sucked into the air conditioning unit - bound to be a fire risk ... Perhaps the result of an unusally large passenger flow..... Reminds me of a VWC cancellation... "1650 London Euston to Birmingham New Street has been cancelled. This is due to an unusually large passenger flow."  |
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