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Author Topic: Level Crossing Collision - Gunnislake Branch 13 December 2018  (Read 3960 times)
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« on: December 13, 2018, 06:38:46 pm »

News coming in of a collision between the Gunnislake branch train and a DPD delivery van on one of the Open Level Crossings between Gunnislake and Calstock.

Edit to add: No injuries reported.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 07:10:37 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 07:37:24 pm »

Ouch! I'm glad no-one was hurt.

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19:13 Gunnislake to Plymouth due 19:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a road vehicle colliding with level crossing barriers.

which doesn't seem to match the photo.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 07:50:10 pm »

All Open Crossings on that branch.  I looked at one news report and it had a photograph of an HST passing Sydney Gardens, Bath...... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2018, 08:15:12 pm »

All Open Crossings on that branch.  I looked at one news report and it had a photograph of an HST passing Sydney Gardens, Bath...... Roll Eyes

How stupid. Also to add, that delivery driver must of been driving like hell to miss the crossing lights.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2018, 08:44:11 pm »

All Open Crossings on that branch.  I looked at one news report and it had a photograph of an HST passing Sydney Gardens, Bath...... Roll Eyes

How stupid. Also to add, that delivery driver must of been driving like hell to miss the crossing lights.

There aren't any crossing lights.  Its an OPEN CROSSING with fixed road signage only.  Whats stupid about it?
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 11:29:25 am »

I suspect "Dispatch Box" meant the HST picture in Bath was stupid.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2018, 11:59:25 am »

All Open Crossings on that branch.  I looked at one news report and it had a photograph of an HST passing Sydney Gardens, Bath...... Roll Eyes

How stupid. Also to add, that delivery driver must of been driving like hell to miss the crossing lights.
There aren't any crossing lights.  Its an OPEN CROSSING with fixed road signage only.  Whats stupid about it?


I Always thought all crossings had some sort of lights to indicate, when a train is about to come, This is dangerous, some crossings have manual gates, The signals are always off, but have placement switches on the panel, A Driver phones signalman to obtain permission, Then opens gates,drives over and closes them, phones again to inform clear.

  Maybe its time to fit all crossings with gates, you would have thought brussels would have insisted on that. Lastly never seen a crossing without lights,anyway my corned beef hash is going cold so bye for a minute..
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2018, 12:07:27 pm »

I suspect "Dispatch Box" meant the HST picture in Bath was stupid.

Yes.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2018, 01:26:02 pm »

Maybe its time to fit all crossings with gates, you would have thought brussels would have insisted on that. Lastly never seen a crossing without lights,

There are dozens of open crossings without lights in the UK. And I suspect many hundreds, if not thousands, across the EU. Blaming Brussels for not insisting they are changed seems to me just a misguided dig at the EU.

Open crossings without lights are perfectly safe when used properly. Having or not having such crossings is not a political issue.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2018, 01:44:18 pm »

Maybe its time to fit all crossings with gates, you would have thought brussels would have insisted on that. Lastly never seen a crossing without lights,

There are dozens of open crossings without lights in the UK. And I suspect many hundreds, if not thousands, across the EU. Blaming Brussels for not insisting they are changed seems to me just a misguided dig at the EU.

Open crossings without lights are perfectly safe when used properly. Having or not having such crossings is not a political issue.

But why did this van driver come to meet a train?.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2018, 01:53:18 pm »

That's what official investigations should find out.

Uninformed speculation, such as suggesting the van driver was "driving like hell" and he/she "missed the crossing lights" that weren't even there isn't at all helpful and won't provide answers as to why the incident occurred.

It's highly unlikely that anyone on this forum can answer the "why did it happen?" question.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2018, 07:28:17 pm »

Maybe its time to fit all crossings with gates, you would have thought brussels would have insisted on that. Lastly never seen a crossing without lights,

Open crossings without lights are perfectly safe when used properly. Having or not having such crossings is not a political issue.

But why did this van driver come to meet a train?.

Murphy's Law shall apply .................
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2018, 07:31:30 pm »

That's what official investigations should find out.

Uninformed speculation, such as suggesting the van driver was "driving like hell" and "missing crossing lights" that weren't even there isn't at all helpful and won't provide answers as to why the incident occurred.

It's highly unlikely that anyone on this forum can answer the "why did it happen?" question.

From the first post at the top of the thread, sandt states an open crossing, now the only open crossing I know is where I used to live, lydney, Naas lane that had an open crossing and had lights either side worked by treadles, so that's why I put ,what I put. other crossings around Gloucester area seem to have manual gates and not suitable for dpd vans. Those that are seem to have metal farmers type gates, but have interlocks with the signalling and some single white or red lights.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2018, 07:33:48 pm »

Having been involved in quite a few incidents like that (investigating them, that is  Roll Eyes) the outcome so far has always been road user error........but, we are always taught when carrying out such investigations, 'never assume anything'.... Shocked
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