Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
End of through trains
Bristol to Waterloo?

 
Please sign our petition
(more information)
 
Campaign links here
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 04:35 29 Nov 2021
- Covid: Third case of Omicron variant detected in the UK
* Covid: Dutch police arrest quarantine hotel escapee couple
- Covid: South Africa's president calls for lifting of Omicron travel bans
- Venezuelan migrants seeking a new home in Chile
- The underwater 'kites' generating electricity as they move
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 03/12/21 - TWSW AGM - online
09/12/21 - Award Event - CRN
19/01/22 - MTUG - regular meeting
08/03/22 - WWRUG AGM - B-o-A
Random Image
Train RunningCancelled
04:57 Reading to Redhill
06:43 Redhill to Reading
06:46 Reading to Gatwick Airport
07:01 Shalford to Reading
08:32 Gatwick Airport to Reading
Short Run
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
November 29, 2021, 04:54:24 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[221] Stranded on a train for 17 hours !
[128] Masks To Become Compulsory On Public Transport Again
[84] XC short notice alterations due to driver unavailability.
[53] Are the railways fit for their (future) purpose?
[52] Day one - cruising in the time of Covid
[36] Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling ...
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4
  Print  
Author Topic: XC Dawlish cancellations now beyond a joke!  (Read 15176 times)
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 6068


View Profile
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2018, 11:41:29 am »

Could you not leave it parked up there all year round just in case? In the summer the buffet could be used to sell refreshments to those walking along the sea wall.  Wink

Are you kidding? With a permanent buffet on offer, Broadgage would never go home! 🙂
Logged
didcotdean
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1315


View Profile
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2018, 12:45:22 pm »

Seen reports that a number of the ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HSTs (High Speed Train) pressed into service in Scotland before any refurbishment have been leaking water in through the roof. All those years at Dawlish taking their toll, maybe ...
Logged
Dispatch Box
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 433


View Profile
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2018, 01:23:48 pm »

Seen reports that a number of the ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HSTs (High Speed Train) pressed into service in Scotland before any refurbishment have been leaking water in through the roof. All those years at Dawlish taking their toll, maybe ...

OH DEAR!, Time to pop into B - Q, To get some mastic filler to repair the cracks, I think.
Logged
paul7575
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 4960


View Profile
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2018, 05:26:55 pm »

Wrong type of all year round drizzle...   Grin

Paul
Logged
PhilWakely
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1628



View Profile
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2018, 09:41:07 pm »

Notwithstanding an overcautious attitude, this is an issue which affects Dawlish for what, maybe 10-15 days a year?

In that context, all talk of avoiding routes and new/different rolling stock is at best whimsy. The railway has far more pressing issues to deal with.

After yet another day today (18/12/18), that makes 9 days in December alone!  Services from Totnes were decimated with a couple of two hour gaps in the service thanks to a couple of GWR (Great Western Railway) train faults on top of all XC services between 0830 and 1500 [bar the single HST (High Speed Train) diagram] being cancelled - not even any XC Zulus between PNZ/PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) and NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) or additional stop orders on GWR services. Several pax booked on the 1050 ex-TOT towards BHM had to wait until 1228 to get a service to EXD (Exeter St Davidsnext trains ) in order to continue their journeys. Not good enough really.
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 6068


View Profile
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2018, 06:06:02 am »

Notwithstanding an overcautious attitude, this is an issue which affects Dawlish for what, maybe 10-15 days a year?

In that context, all talk of avoiding routes and new/different rolling stock is at best whimsy. The railway has far more pressing issues to deal with.

 Several pax booked on the 1050 ex-TOT towards BHM had to wait until 1228 to get a service to EXD (Exeter St Davidsnext trains ) in order to continue their journeys. Not good enough really.


If that's the case, and they were going to have to wait the thick end of 2 hours for a service, why weren't they put in a cab to Exeter? It's hardly a long haul from Totnes, did anyone request this?
Logged
Umberleigh
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 456


View Profile
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2019, 07:08:25 pm »

Could you not leave it parked up there all year round just in case? In the summer the buffet could be used to sell refreshments to those walking along the sea wall.  Wink

Would that be fair on Class 802 passengers to see a fully stocked and crewed buffet selling espresso coffee, ice-cold drinks and hot meals as forlornly sip their warm beers and instant coffees and nibble at their cold snacks...?
Logged
plymothian
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 700


View Profile
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2019, 08:22:11 am »

I can't find an online version at the moment, but published in the Plymouth Herald recently was an article about MPs (Member of Parliament) calling for a solution to Crosscountry cancelling trains ... force them to use GWR (Great Western Railway)'s former HSTs (High Speed Train)
Logged

Please be aware that only the first 4 words of this post will be platformed on this message board.
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10656


View Profile Email
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2019, 08:40:32 am »

Last one of those (non-Castle class) leaves in March, I'm hearing....something I'm sure GWR (Great Western Railway) would have told the Herald if they'd actually done their job properly and called their press office to enquire.

That maybe why they haven't put the story up online
Logged
PhilWakely
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1628



View Profile
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2019, 09:13:42 am »

I can't find an online version at the moment, but published in the Plymouth Herald recently was an article about MPs (Member of Parliament) calling for a solution to Crosscountry cancelling trains ... force them to use GWR (Great Western Railway)'s former HSTs (High Speed Train)

Last one of those (non-Castle class) leaves in March, I'm hearing....something I'm sure GWR would have told the Herald if they'd actually done their job properly and called their press office to enquire.

That maybe why they haven't put the story up online

I haven't seen this particular version of the story, but the version I'd heard was that XC were to be 'told' to obtain 'a couple' of ex-GWR HST sets once becoming surplus to requirements and being put into storage (as not all HST sets going off lease will be reallocated elsewhere). These would be based at Laira and used on the short Bristol to Plymouth/Paignton/Penzance services unless required to shuttle through Dawlish.
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 34949



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2019, 09:53:19 am »

... the version I'd heard was that XC were to be 'told' to obtain 'a couple' of ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HST (High Speed Train) sets once becoming surplus to requirements and being put into storage (as not all HST sets going off lease will be reallocated elsewhere). These would be based at Laira and used on the short Bristol to Plymouth/Paignton/Penzance services unless required to shuttle through Dawlish.

Should that be in "The Rumour Mill"??   No - perhaps not; there various wisps of smoke blowing around at the moment, is it's pretty likely there's a fire somewhere  Grin  Grin.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, and on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest.
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 34949



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2019, 06:37:11 pm »

From https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/network-rail-ready-to-tackle-winter-conditions-heading-towards-the-west/ talking about keeping running through this week's weather

Quote
Andy Cooper, managing director of CrossCountry said: “We know how important it is for our customers to complete their journeys whatever the weather. In the same way as everyone will be doing with their cars, we’ve checked all the systems on the trains and topped up with de-icer, and are working closely with Network Rail and GWR (Great Western Railway) to ensure we can keep our services running.”

Noting that Cross Country aren't running along the seawall because of tidal conditions, I'm guessing they don't count high tide and waves as "weather" through which it's important for customers to complete their journeys ...
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, and on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest.
signalandtelegraph
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 300



View Profile
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2019, 11:03:31 am »

1A88, 1C90 and 1A90 all lost engines yesterday due to being struck by waves on the sea wall.  Looks like new GW (Great Western) fleet may also be susceptible to the vagaries of the Dawlish weather. 
Logged

Bring back BR (British Rail(ways))
bradshaw
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1077



View Profile
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2019, 11:27:46 am »

Richard Clinnick on Twitter just now
Quote
So I'm told that the 2 @HitachiRailEU IETs (Intercity Express Train) that suffered engine problems after getting wet at Dawlish were @GWRHelp 800s and not 802s, which means that the mods Hitachi designed for the non-DfT» (Department for Transport - about) fleet work. What this means for 800s remains to be seen.
https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1093062698823270400?s=21
Logged
bobm
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 8894



View Profile
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2019, 02:11:17 pm »

It was a last minute set swap on the day which saw the 800s sent to the SW on the 06:35 (returning on the 12:04 (1A88)) after problems getting sets of North Pole depot that morning.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page