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Author Topic: XC Dawlish cancellations now beyond a joke!  (Read 18863 times)
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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2018, 11:41:29 »

Could you not leave it parked up there all year round just in case? In the summer the buffet could be used to sell refreshments to those walking along the sea wall.  Wink

Are you kidding? With a permanent buffet on offer, Broadgage would never go home! 🙂
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2018, 12:45:22 »

Seen reports that a number of the ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HSTs (High Speed Train) pressed into service in Scotland before any refurbishment have been leaking water in through the roof. All those years at Dawlish taking their toll, maybe ...
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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2018, 13:23:48 »

Seen reports that a number of the ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HSTs (High Speed Train) pressed into service in Scotland before any refurbishment have been leaking water in through the roof. All those years at Dawlish taking their toll, maybe ...

OH DEAR!, Time to pop into B - Q, To get some mastic filler to repair the cracks, I think.
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« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2018, 17:26:55 »

Wrong type of all year round drizzle...   Grin

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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2018, 21:41:07 »

Notwithstanding an overcautious attitude, this is an issue which affects Dawlish for what, maybe 10-15 days a year?

In that context, all talk of avoiding routes and new/different rolling stock is at best whimsy. The railway has far more pressing issues to deal with.

After yet another day today (18/12/18), that makes 9 days in December alone!  Services from Totnes were decimated with a couple of two hour gaps in the service thanks to a couple of GWR (Great Western Railway) train faults on top of all XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) services between 0830 and 1500 [bar the single HST (High Speed Train) diagram] being cancelled - not even any XC Zulus between PNZ/PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) and NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) or additional stop orders on GWR services. Several pax booked on the 1050 ex-TOT towards BHM had to wait until 1228 to get a service to EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) in order to continue their journeys. Not good enough really.
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2018, 06:06:02 »

Notwithstanding an overcautious attitude, this is an issue which affects Dawlish for what, maybe 10-15 days a year?

In that context, all talk of avoiding routes and new/different rolling stock is at best whimsy. The railway has far more pressing issues to deal with.

 Several pax booked on the 1050 ex-TOT towards BHM had to wait until 1228 to get a service to EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) in order to continue their journeys. Not good enough really.


If that's the case, and they were going to have to wait the thick end of 2 hours for a service, why weren't they put in a cab to Exeter? It's hardly a long haul from Totnes, did anyone request this?
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2019, 19:08:25 »

Could you not leave it parked up there all year round just in case? In the summer the buffet could be used to sell refreshments to those walking along the sea wall.  Wink

Would that be fair on Class 802 passengers to see a fully stocked and crewed buffet selling espresso coffee, ice-cold drinks and hot meals as forlornly sip their warm beers and instant coffees and nibble at their cold snacks...?
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2019, 08:22:11 »

I can't find an online version at the moment, but published in the Plymouth Herald recently was an article about MPs (Member of Parliament) calling for a solution to Crosscountry cancelling trains ... force them to use GWR (Great Western Railway)'s former HSTs (High Speed Train)
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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2019, 08:40:32 »

Last one of those (non-Castle class) leaves in March, I'm hearing....something I'm sure GWR (Great Western Railway) would have told the Herald if they'd actually done their job properly and called their press office to enquire.

That maybe why they haven't put the story up online
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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2019, 09:13:42 »

I can't find an online version at the moment, but published in the Plymouth Herald recently was an article about MPs (Member of Parliament) calling for a solution to Crosscountry cancelling trains ... force them to use GWR (Great Western Railway)'s former HSTs (High Speed Train)

Last one of those (non-Castle class) leaves in March, I'm hearing....something I'm sure GWR would have told the Herald if they'd actually done their job properly and called their press office to enquire.

That maybe why they haven't put the story up online

I haven't seen this particular version of the story, but the version I'd heard was that XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) were to be 'told' to obtain 'a couple' of ex-GWR HST sets once becoming surplus to requirements and being put into storage (as not all HST sets going off lease will be reallocated elsewhere). These would be based at Laira and used on the short Bristol to Plymouth/Paignton/Penzance services unless required to shuttle through Dawlish.
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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2019, 09:53:19 »

... the version I'd heard was that XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) were to be 'told' to obtain 'a couple' of ex-GWR (Great Western Railway) HST (High Speed Train) sets once becoming surplus to requirements and being put into storage (as not all HST sets going off lease will be reallocated elsewhere). These would be based at Laira and used on the short Bristol to Plymouth/Paignton/Penzance services unless required to shuttle through Dawlish.

Should that be in "The Rumour Mill"??   No - perhaps not; there various wisps of smoke blowing around at the moment, is it's pretty likely there's a fire somewhere  Grin  Grin.
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2019, 18:37:11 »

From https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/network-rail-ready-to-tackle-winter-conditions-heading-towards-the-west/ talking about keeping running through this week's weather

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Andy Cooper, managing director of CrossCountry said: “We know how important it is for our customers to complete their journeys whatever the weather. In the same way as everyone will be doing with their cars, we’ve checked all the systems on the trains and topped up with de-icer, and are working closely with Network Rail and GWR (Great Western Railway) to ensure we can keep our services running.”

Noting that Cross Country aren't running along the seawall because of tidal conditions, I'm guessing they don't count high tide and waves as "weather" through which it's important for customers to complete their journeys ...
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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2019, 11:03:31 »

1A88, 1C90 and 1A90 all lost engines yesterday due to being struck by waves on the sea wall.  Looks like new GW (Great Western) fleet may also be susceptible to the vagaries of the Dawlish weather. 
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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2019, 11:27:46 »

Richard Clinnick on Twitter just now
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So I'm told that the 2 @HitachiRailEU IETs (Intercity Express Train) that suffered engine problems after getting wet at Dawlish were @GWRHelp 800s and not 802s, which means that the mods Hitachi designed for the non-DfT» (Department for Transport - about) fleet work. What this means for 800s remains to be seen.
https://twitter.com/clinnick1/status/1093062698823270400?s=21
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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2019, 14:11:17 »

It was a last minute set swap on the day which saw the 800s sent to the SW on the 06:35 (returning on the 12:04 (1A88)) after problems getting sets of North Pole depot that morning.
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