Transport secretary - on subjects beyond transport

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[grahame]

From the Daily Mail

Wrecking Brexit will let in the far-Right: Minister's grave warning as poll shows more Tory voters now support PM's deal with Brussels

Transport Secretary Chris Grayling made the warning should Brexit be blocked
He said if it does not go through the millions who voted leave would feel cheated
And that doing so would provoke 'nasty' incidents such as recent 'Nazi' taunts

[ChrisB]

I don't agree wth him....the third line will happen if it doesn't go through, not if it does (because they'll feel cheated)

BUT should non-transport Politics be discussed on this MAIN board, really?

[GBM]

I don't agree wth him....the third line will happen if it doesn't go through, not if it does (because they'll feel cheated)

BUT should non-transport Politics be discussed on this MAIN board, really?

Take that point yes, but, the topic heading is transport secretary and it's something he's spoken about that is not transport related.
A great danger the subject could get very heated indeed. 

[grahame]

I don't agree wth him....the third line will happen if it doesn't go through, not if it does (because they'll feel cheated)

BUT should non-transport Politics be discussed on this MAIN board, really?

Take that point yes, but, the topic heading is transport secretary and it's something he's spoken about that is not transport related.
A great danger the subject could get very heated indeed. 

I thought carefully before posting on a main board thread.  I concluded that the Transport Secretary is a key person at the steering wheel of public transport in this country, with a very great deal of input into what happens,. Knowing / being aware of the total person and his overall thoughts and direction would seem to have relevance to the thoughts and direction he puts into transport.     For sure, we could find we have a robust exchanged of views

[ChrisB]

I was more concerned about discussing Brexit actually. Strong views on both sides right now. And discusssble on many fora, no need to add another here.

[Dispatch Box]

I was more concerned about discussing Brexit actually. Strong views on both sides right now. And discusssble on many fora, no need to add another here.

Not many more days to go and we will see the out come.

[TaplowGreen]

I was more concerned about discussing Brexit actually. Strong views on both sides right now. And discusssble on many fora, no need to add another here.

Not many more days to go and we will see the out come.

I wouldn't be too sure about that...……...

[Red Squirrel]

I wouldn't be too sure about that...……...

#MeNeither. This one could run and run. I think it's all a cynical plot to bolster the flagging MSM!

[TonyK]

I  have devised  my own backstop.  Watch this space.

[Puffing Billy]

I don't agree wth him....the third line will happen if it doesn't go through, not if it does (because they'll feel cheated)

BUT should non-transport Politics be discussed on this MAIN board, really?

For one I absolutely do not want to see politics creeping onto this website. There are plenty of other places to discuss that sort of rubbish.

[Dispatch Box]

I don't agree wth him....the third line will happen if it doesn't go through, not if it does (because they'll feel cheated)

BUT should non-transport Politics be discussed on this MAIN board, really?

For one I absolutely do not want to see politics creeping onto this website. There are plenty of other places to discuss that sort of rubbish.

It has gone off the rails, What's needed is some more Filton banks to get everybody going. Time for graham to do some telling off.

[Western Pathfinder]

Grahame as we know is most capable Of locking anything that he deemed necessary,as are the rest of the Mods.

[JayMac]

The thread title is quite clear. "On subjects beyond transport."

So no. Not more discussion of "Filton banks" here, unless someone wants to start a topic elsewhere about the Church Road, Filton branch of NatWest.

No one needs a telling off from grahame. There's been no breach of forum rules. Minor thread drift is perfectly natural and just a mirror of normal conversation. If the thread drift is deemed more major then the mods and admins are perfectly capable of splitting posts off.

As for not discussing politics on this forum. We do it all the time. I don't see why non-transport political discussion should be censored. If you don't want to join in then that's your choice. If you're not happy seeing such subjects on the forum then avoid the threads as soon as it's clear that you have no interest in the topic. I do it all the time. This thread title clearly signposts its likely content.

Now, back to a subject beyond transport, as per the thread title. Brexit eh? What a mess.

[Red Squirrel]

Until the railways evolve into self-sustaining independent businesses whose trains pass quietly and un-noticed through the communities they serve and delight, they will continue to have 'politics' written through them like the word 'Blackpool' in a stick of rock. Trying to avoid it is like trying to avoid death - or taxes.

[Puffing Billy]

Alright, let's not get in a tizzy ...

Trying to avoid it [politics] is like trying to avoid death - or taxes

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have no problem avoiding politics as a rule. As far as this forum goes, I follow, and occasionally contribute to, topics concerning the enjoyment, operation and history of railways in the west, but avoid conscious involvement in anything "political". If anyone tries to put a political slant on anything I have said, then that says more about their mentality than it does about me. As far as politics in the wider world goes, all I will say is that I know where the "off" switch on my radio is. This attitude gets up the nose of those who try to tell me I should endeavour to Engage With The Political Process, but that is their problem.

I don't see why non-transport political discussion should be censored

No-one is advocating censorship. It seems odd to me that someone should want to talk politics on a railway forum (or on a gardening forum or a cooklng forum for that matter), but I have no wish to prevent any political enthusiasts of so doing. But I do think this particular topic has been rather clumsily shoe-horned into an inappropriate section of the forum, rather than into a separate "politics" section.

This current section, let us remind ourselves, is entitled "Who's who on Western railways". That does rather suggest that the focus will be on the role those people play on the railway; however there is no reason not to take an interest in any other notable areas of their lives - I hope that having started the topic "Transport secretary - on subjects beyond transport", the list of those subjects will be long and fascinating. Is he an expert on ancient Greece? Does he play a mean game of chess? Does he have a model railway in the attic? I would hate to think that this Grayling chap is just another of those rather dim, boring politicians.

I thought carefully before posting on a main board thread

 

Oh, for goodness sake, don't be so pious! You wanted to start a discussion on this tedious subject, so you thought you would inflict it on this forum.

Well, that is all I have to say on the subject. If I am not banned, then I may continue to make the odd contribution on other subjects.