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Author Topic: Overchecking of tickets - on train and at arriving station.  (Read 1042 times)
Robin Summerhill
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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2019, 08:22:57 pm »

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Or did he just not have a card and was bluffing it?

Oh yes, he had a disabled person's railcard. It just appeared that he took offence at having to show it to the TM "because he was "obviously disabled."
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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2019, 08:55:12 pm »

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I think you've made an unnecessary mountain of a molehill with this moan grahame.

But at least its kept us all debating the topic for a couple of days  Grin
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2019, 10:49:59 am »

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Or did he just not have a card and was bluffing it?

Oh yes, he had a disabled person's railcard. It just appeared that he took offence at having to show it to the TM "because he was "obviously disabled."

As I said to my then young daughter once (quite loudly) when she saw someone young and fit park in a disabled space and head for the store, you can't always tell someone is disabled just by looking at them. You can never tell, just by looking at someone, if they have filled in the form and paid the £20 needed for a Disabled Persons Railcard.

That said, only once have I been asked to show my Senior Git Railcard, and I don't look old.* That was on a train from Preston to Manchester, following the announcement "Can you have all tickets, passes, discount cards and any other railway related praphernalia ready for inspection please? Ta."

(*Do I? Oh dear...)
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2019, 01:56:04 pm »

A tale I've recounted before:

Ticket didn't work barrier at Charing Cross. Showed it to gateline staffer who asked to see my accompanying Disabled Persons Railcard. I have no issue with that. I did take issue though when he said, "You don't look disabled."

"You don't look like a doctor," I replied as I walked off.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2019, 08:13:35 pm »

Recent Experience ....

Full Check of Tickets and Passes at Penzance Gate prior to IET boarding. On train check started just past Long Rock depot, less than five minutes after departure.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2019, 08:25:19 pm »

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Recent Experience ....

Full Check of Tickets and Passes at Penzance Gate prior to IET boarding. On train check started just past Long Rock depot, less than five minutes after departure.

I've had quite a few cases where I've had my ticket checked on a London-bound service before the tail lamps have been dragged past the end of the Temple Meads platform
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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2019, 08:58:23 pm »

There was a barrier check on platform 6 at Reading this evening for an incoming service from London Waterloo using SWR staff HOWEVER there had been no on board check in the hour I had been on board.   Quite a few without tickets but unless they were heading elsewhere they wouldn’t have got through the gateline at Reading anyway.
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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2019, 09:37:35 pm »

I honestly can't remember the last time I had my ticket checked between Ealing Broadway and Taplow (which is ungated). I seem to recall a gang of revenue spooks at Taplow on arrival once or twice but certainly no more than that.
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2019, 10:18:49 pm »

I think the last few posts back up Graham's original post. The problem is the impression gained from the enormous variability in ticket checking, from several times in one journey to not at all.
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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2019, 10:25:28 pm »

I honestly can't remember the last time I had my ticket checked between Ealing Broadway and Taplow (which is ungated). I seem to recall a gang of revenue spooks at Taplow on arrival once or twice but certainly no more than that.

They'll catch you one day TG! Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2019, 11:13:38 pm »

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I think the last few posts back up Graham's original post. The problem is the impression gained from the enormous variability in ticket checking, from several times in one journey to not at all.

I think I’d come to completely the opposite conclusion.

We started off by talking, to some extent, about people new to rail travel. If they get the idea that they can have their ticket checked anywhere, anytime and most importantly, randomly, it might stop them getting the idea that they can get away without paying.

The problem with regular, predictable checks is that people might see ways to avoid them. On another forum we were recently discussing the Severn Beach line and how some passengers have sussed out that if they sit or stand in a particular part of the train, for a relatively short journey, they can avoid paying their just dues.

The local RPO team have become aware of this and keep an eye out for just such behaviour.
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2019, 11:39:51 pm »

Over many years I have seen woeful fare avoidance on the SB line which also understates it's huge importance insofar as user numbers are concerned.
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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2019, 04:49:20 am »

I honestly can't remember the last time I had my ticket checked between Ealing Broadway and Taplow (which is ungated). I seem to recall a gang of revenue spooks at Taplow on arrival once or twice but certainly no more than that.

They'll catch you one day TG! Tongue

They'll never take me alive! 😂
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