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« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2019, 14:06:10 »

Given extra services & extra long 387s, will there be sufficient rolling stock and crew to maintain them all without short forming other services and/or cancellations as a result?

I'm conscious that frequently (weekdays and weekends) there are insufficient staff available to sustain the current timetable.
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« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2019, 14:38:25 »

Given extra services & extra long 387s, will there be sufficient rolling stock and crew to maintain them all without short forming other services and/or cancellations as a result?

I'm conscious that frequently (weekdays and weekends) there are insufficient staff available to sustain the current timetable.

Are you forgetting that some of the diagrams will be taken over by TfL» (Transport for London - about) and their new fleet of trains. 
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« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2019, 14:41:55 »

Given extra services & extra long 387s, will there be sufficient rolling stock and crew to maintain them all without short forming other services and/or cancellations as a result?

I'm conscious that frequently (weekdays and weekends) there are insufficient staff available to sustain the current timetable.

Are you forgetting that some of the diagrams will be taken over by TfL» (Transport for London - about) and their new fleet of trains. 

Conscious of that. Question still stands.
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« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2019, 14:52:00 »

Quite a few LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) drivers will be released for other things as a result of the TfL» (Transport for London - about) takeover.  They will no doubt find other duties, such as the extra peak Basingstoke trains.

My only concern over LTV is that late evening when TfL give up for the day and GWR (Great Western Railway) take over the late stopping services.

West sector services I don’t know well enough to be able to express an opinion.

I certainly have my concerns over HSS (High Speed Services) sector trains - especially at weekends when there is a substantial increase in trains, particularly Sundays where we often struggle as documented on here.

I would expect LTV sector depots will learn more routes to help balance things out, but whether it’ll be enough, I don’t know.
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« Reply #79 on: August 14, 2019, 18:02:34 »

West sector services I don’t know well enough to be able to express an opinion.

I certainly have my concerns over HSS (High Speed Services) sector trains - especially at weekends when there is a substantial increase in trains, particularly Sundays where we often struggle as documented on here.

I’m aware that there are depots in the West where Drivers and Conductors are learning to Paddington, well at least according to a Gloucester driver..
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« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2019, 20:16:36 »

West sector services I don’t know well enough to be able to express an opinion.

I certainly have my concerns over HSS (High Speed Services) sector trains - especially at weekends when there is a substantial increase in trains, particularly Sundays where we often struggle as documented on here.

I’m aware that there are depots in the West where Drivers and Conductors are learning to Paddington, well at least according to a Gloucester driver..

I think they’re learning the IETs (Intercity Express Train), I doubt they’ll learn the route to Paddington.  To sign a route the drivers need to have booked work over that route. 
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« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2019, 20:55:37 »

West sector services I don’t know well enough to be able to express an opinion.

I certainly have my concerns over HSS (High Speed Services) sector trains - especially at weekends when there is a substantial increase in trains, particularly Sundays where we often struggle as documented on here.

I’m aware that there are depots in the West where Drivers and Conductors are learning to Paddington, well at least according to a Gloucester driver..

I think they’re learning the IETs (Intercity Express Train), I doubt they’ll learn the route to Paddington.  To sign a route the drivers need to have booked work over that route. 

There are defiantly drivers learning to Paddington.
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« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2019, 21:24:39 »

Definitely defiant?  Tongue
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« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2019, 21:48:46 »

Good to see GWR (Great Western Railway) have started the campaign to inform everyone of the forthcoming major timetable change:
https://www.gwr.com/plan-journey/timetable-2019

You can also sign up to receive further information:
https://www.gwr.com/help-and-support/contact/december-timetable

Whilst writing, details regarding services over Christmas are also available:
https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/planned-engineering/christmas
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« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2019, 07:32:59 »

I suppose it is cleverly worded. Exeter- Paignton every half an hour which I suppose it will be with Exmouth trains coming off the branch. It does not say Paignton- Exeter twice an hour and you may be stuck in Dawlish Warren increasing your journey time.
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« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2019, 14:39:43 »

Will we possibly see 10 car formations operating on the South and North Cotswold lines? I’ve also noticed that 9 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) are now being signalled into Gloucester platform 1 where they previously wouldn’t fit but there has since been improvement works.
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« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2019, 16:09:51 »

As I understand it from past discussions, neither the North or South Cots are suitable for 2*5 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) as in places they are too long - they just don't fit the infrastructure (eg track circuits, cross overs etc). Not sure exactly where in total but I recall Gloucester, Cheltenham, Hereford, and Moreton-in-Marsh have various issues. In some of them certain platforms could be used but would adversely affect the general operational flexibility; in others it relates to the ability to turn them around at that point. If this is out of date I'd welcome any further info. In the early days 10 cars were allocated in error a few times though.
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« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2019, 16:59:52 »

Certain places have been modified, for example Worcester Shrub Hill can now fit a 10-car train within the signals at both ends of the main platform.  Hereford has problems with 9-cars, meaning they don’t dwell in the station like they used to when HSTs (High Speed Train) - that would be no worse with a 10-car.

What will run as 10-cars, when, and where, is unknown to me at the moment.
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« Reply #88 on: August 18, 2019, 08:21:45 »

Will we possibly see 10 car formations operating on the South and North Cotswold lines? I’ve also noticed that 9 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) are now being signalled into Gloucester platform 1 where they previously wouldn’t fit but there has since been improvement works.


Are you sure about nine-car IETs in Platform 1 at Gloucester? I’ve not heard of the restriction being lifted.
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« Reply #89 on: August 18, 2019, 11:44:08 »

Will we possibly see 10 car formations operating on the South and North Cotswold lines? I’ve also noticed that 9 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) are now being signalled into Gloucester platform 1 where they previously wouldn’t fit but there has since been improvement works.


Are you sure about nine-car IETs in Platform 1 at Gloucester? I’ve not heard of the restriction being lifted.

A look on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) and it’s showing Paddington bound services using the platform. Also, a NR» (Network Rail - home page) Manager seemed to think that they were moving the points to accommodate longer trains.
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