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Author Topic: Campaigning For A More-Appropriate Train Design - HOW?  (Read 386 times)
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2019, 07:02:50 am »

Thank you all for your supportive comments.

Delighted to see your long and thoughtful feedback - thoroughly thinking through the issues. I'm going to add just one or two penneth ...

There also seems to be a policy of ordering short multiple units rather than trains long enough to meet present and reasonably expected demand.
On a route where two car units are very inadequate, and 3 car units somewhat inadequate, it seems that future trains should be at least 5 car, and that 6 car should be considered.
Not likely to happen though, "lets order some more 2 car and 3 car units"

And yes I know that they can run in multiple, but previous experience suggests that if the TOC has available shorter trains, that single unit operation will feature regularly.
It's not quite like that on the Wales & Borders franchise. There's a fair bit of portion working planned; in addition to the current Cambrian line services (2 coaches each for Aberystwyth and Pwllheli, ensuring a 4-car train between Machynlleth and Birmingham) the Manchester - South Wales service is intended to split at Swansea and the Liverpool - Chester to extend to both Cardiff and Llandudno with a split at Chester, giving a longer train from Chester to Liverpool. That could perhaps do with 3-cars rather than 2 beyond Chester on at least one of those portions though.

Hmmm ... I could foresee a situation where the 2 car from Pwllheli and the 2 car from Aberystwyth are NOT combined at Macynelleth but rather people are moved from one train to the other - onward 2 car not 4 via Welshpool.  The suggestion that this isn't happening tends to suggest adequate stock levels / no teething troubles which is what's being 'blamed' for 5 v 9 from Paddington.   Just beware of the risk.

Re. the comments on the merits or otherwise of the split at Swansea; that's a whole different campaign. Because of the long journey time, I feel that services might as well terminate at Swansea from both directions, with new express services from Carmarthen (calling at only Llanelli and Port Talbot) to maintain through links to Cardiff with no changes.

Beware of mixing two campaigns and having them interdependent.   If each has a 1 in 4 chance of success, would linking them reduce the chance of success to just 1 in 16?

You might also contact Railfuture Wales - they'll likely know how far down the design route TfW have got & whether, therefore, your campaign might get somewhere, or it's too late....
I actually wrote to Rowland Pittard of Railfuture Wales for a second time a week ago asking for his comments, having not had a reply from my first e-mail a few weeks earlier. I've still not had a reply; is he still at Railfuture Wales?

Community rail seems to be very patchy ... strong in the South West, weak in the east end of GWR territory and in South Wales.  I'm not (yet?) all that well informed of the relative strengths of RailFuture branches for contact links (connecting individual campaigns) and I don't know of a TravelWatch SouthWales type organisation that does what TravelWatch SouthWest does (being involved in that latter, I could help oil introductions). I was surprised the other day to find the lack of stations friends and user groups in the valleys - not the exact area we're talking about, but perhaps that lack also extends to West Wales??

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2019, 11:29:58 am »

I actually wrote to Rowland Pittard of Railfuture Wales for a second time a week ago asking for his comments, having not had a reply from my first e-mail a few weeks earlier. I've still not had a reply; is he still at Railfuture Wales?

Yep, he's your guy there.

I was with him only two days ago. If you can drop me your real name by IM, I can drop him a line & chase up a reply, if that would help?
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