Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 05:15 20 Apr 2024
- Some Wales roads to revert to 30mph after backlash
- BBC presenter reports racist abuse on London train
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 02/06/24 - Summer Timetable starts
17/08/24 - Bus to Imber
27/09/25 - 200 years of passenger trains

On this day
20th Apr (1789)
Opening of Sapperton Canal Tunnel

Train RunningCancelled
05:15 Plymouth to Penzance
07:40 Penzance to Plymouth
08:15 Penzance to London Paddington
19:19 Carmarthen to Swansea
Short Run
07:22 Exeter St Davids to Penzance
14:48 London Paddington to Carmarthen
18:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern
21:07 Gloucester to Bristol Temple Meads
Delayed
05:25 Swansea to London Paddington
06:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 20, 2024, 05:30:07 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[276] Somerset and Dorset Devonshire Tunnel flood
[265] Rail to refuge / Travel to refuge
[45] Rail delay compensation payments hit £100 million
[40] Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onward...
[19] Difficult to argue with e-bike/scooter rules?
[18] Signage - not making it easy ...
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: NESTing  (Read 1738 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40784



View Profile WWW Email
« on: March 23, 2008, 08:53:08 »

I've come up with a new term - "NESTing" - and perhaps it should be the target for all Train Operating Companies.

There's often complaints about overcrowding of trains, but definitions of this vary and people's acceptance levels sharply contrast.  One element looks for a bay of four seats with a table for their group of two people, and feels that the train is too full for comfort when they can't find what they're looking for.  The next group feels that groups travelling together should be able to sit together rather than having to break up.  And at the other extreme, there are people who feel that as long as they can get on the train and stand in comfort, that's OK.  So I propose the NEST standard.

Nearly All Seats Taken. There shouldn't be a need for people to stand in my view (I'll make an exception in the case of short journeys stretches of less than 10 minutes).  But neither should there be an assumption that all travellers have plenty of room to spread out, nor that the seat beside you is designed not for another person but for your bags.

Travelling Southbound from Westbury to Portsmouth Harbour yesterday morning, our 2 car class 158 was nesting all the way.  Excellent, though I think the weather and forecast and Bristol-centric sports program yesterday helped keep it down below the overcrowding level.  I understand that the reverse service that was due to call in Westbury at around 11 was already full beyond capacity before it reached Southampton, and I wonder how the 2 car 158 did on its return - so there IS a need to run services at below the nesting level at times - nesting should be peak!


The train described arrived in Westbury

Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
Conner
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1041


08436 at Corfe Castle on the Swanage Railway


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 08:58:56 »

That is a really good thing to aim for Grahame, I think that should definatly be a target, but another problem is luggage, when that takes up alot of space when their are not racks the train seems alot more crowded.
Luggage is a big problem on 150's and even on refurb HST (High Speed Train)'s.
Logged
TerminalJunkie
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 919



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 09:49:27 »

Quote from: grahame
Nearly All Seats Taken.

Nearly Every Seat Taken, surely?
Logged

Daily Mail and Daily Express readers please click here.
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40784



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 09:56:00 »

Quote from: grahame
Nearly All Seats Taken.

Nearly Every Seat Taken, surely?

OOps - yes - that's what I meant to say!
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
vacman
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2530


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 10:56:39 »

That is a really good thing to aim for Grahame, I think that should definatly be a target, but another problem is luggage, when that takes up alot of space when their are not racks the train seems alot more crowded.
Luggage is a big problem on 150's and even on refurb HST (High Speed Train)'s.
One thing thats overlooked on 150's though is the MASSIVE overhead luggage racks which can easily hold most large suitcases!
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page