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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2019, 09:10:56 am » |
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The trains generally have a toilet. Those without a ticket shouldn't rely on stations
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2019, 10:41:37 am » |
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The trains generally have a toilet. Those without a ticket shouldn't rely on stations They should be able to rely on a station toilet if like Bristol the LA has shut all public loos. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 10:49:20 am » |
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The trains generally have a toilet. Those without a ticket shouldn't rely on stations They should be able to rely on a station toilet if like Bristol the LA has shut all public loos.  Indeed ... there really should be a minimum level of toilet provision. For those meeting and greeting, seeing people off, arriving back at the station in good time, awaiting a delayed or cancelled train, just arrived thinking "we'll go to the loo when we get there", etc. There are public loos in Weymouth - on the front, about 200 yards from the station. Think some are still open but some closed. Just on the train is - in my opinion - below that minimum level for a place like Weymouth.
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2019, 10:56:49 am » |
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Not if the TOC▸ would need to pay for full-time security, I don't.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2019, 11:44:19 am » |
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It is OK to say "go on the train". My very crowded 3 coach train to Weymouth last Saturday only had one out of three toilets in working order. I suspect that ran out of water long before the end of the day.
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I like to travel. It lets me feel I'm getting somewhere.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2019, 12:01:43 pm » |
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It is OK to say "go on the train". My very crowded 3 coach train to Weymouth last Saturday only had one out of three toilets in working order. I suspect that ran out of water long before the end of the day.
Reminds me of a two (or was it three) coach Sprinter I got back from after the Cardiff FA Cup final in 2006. I had been in the huge queue outside Cardiff Central for what felt like an age, just missing being allowed through for the previous service. "Bursting" would be an understatement of mine and my fellow travellers condition by the time of the following service (due to a small amount of drowning of sorrows). Fortunately, I was first on the train when station staff allowed the queue to move again and first to it's loo. There was still a queue for it through the coach when I got off at Temple Meads. Edit: I still feel more reassured using a public convenience only used by people who have already ( in theory at least) purchased a railway ticket.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2019, 10:11:44 pm » |
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I've been away in Weymouth this weekend, so had a chance to see how much of a disappointment the station is. I have been there many times before, as I particularly like Weymouth as a resort.
Yes the toilets are closed, permanently by the look of it, and the station isn't particularly welcoming, but I know many that feel worse. I quite like the way you can walk from the platform straight out onto the street by the side and be in the heart of the town immediately, and while the area around the station is probably Weymouth's poorest, it only takes a minute to have the vista of the glorious crescent beach and all its activity and a walk along its prom.
In terms of toilet provision, Weymouth must now be one of the few main towns in the south-west which still has a reasonable number of public toilets and all free to use, unlike most tourist places where all are charged.
Personally I would have thought toilet provision ought to come under the remit of the Disability Discrimination Act, as many of us have disabilities which require frequent access to toilets. And provision on trains is no real substitute, as when they are working (which IME▸ they often aren't), the trains can be so overcrowded that it can be very difficult to get to one, and for those who are very frail, trying to in a moving train is not practical.
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2019, 10:38:42 pm » |
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Many towns in the UK▸ have pissoirs that rise from the ground in the evening or are dropped off from a lorry on a Friday / Saturday night. A very sensible idea. Sorry ladies.  Of course in many European cities they are available 24/7. I don't know how much maintenance they need. Some may feel uncomfortable using them but I'm perfectly ok with them.
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2019, 11:32:22 pm » |
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Many of the male gender who have, like me, now got to "a certain age," can certainly empathise with this man's character... 
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2019, 04:09:47 pm » |
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The 1980s Weymouth Station modification/rebuild is certainly not without it's critics on this forum as has been the case for other examples of post WW2 station architecture . This got me thinking, do forum members have any examples of post WW2 Station architecture that they actually think works well, both aesthetically and functionally? Also, are there any notable "dishonourable mentions" that forum members would like to let off some steam about?
To avoid a total topic drift fiasco, I'll start a new thread in a couple of mo's somewhere under "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" heading.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2019, 12:05:21 pm » |
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Many towns in the UK▸ have pissoirs that rise from the ground in the evening or are dropped off from a lorry on a Friday / Saturday night. A very sensible idea. Sorry ladies.  A version for women has been designed as well, but AFAIK▸ so far only used at festivals.
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2023, 02:19:25 pm » |
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All the lovely new stuff out the front, and Weymouth Station remains a disappointment. I didn't comment on it earlier today; I had simply drawn a deep breath yesterday, sadly noticed in unimproved from this thread 4 years ago. However, SWR» asked me via a survey my opinion, so this is what I wrote. Toilets need to be open. For a big station, a member of staff would be useful. Once station closed (later in the day / my GWR▸ return via Yeovil) no sign saying "closed" on front, no screen showing departure, had to look at each platform to find the train from along the platform itself. And this on a busy summer day at a seaside terminus with lots of people using your services Not really helped for newcomers to rail being faced with a train with a scrolling screen labelled "Barnstaple" which was (of course) going to Swindon.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2023, 10:34:04 am » |
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All the lovely new stuff out the front, and Weymouth Station remains a disappointment. I didn't comment on it earlier today; I had simply drawn a deep breath yesterday, sadly noticed in unimproved from this thread 4 years ago. However, SWR» asked me via a survey my opinion, so this is what I wrote. Toilets need to be open. For a big station, a member of staff would be useful. Once station closed (later in the day / my GWR▸ return via Yeovil) no sign saying "closed" on front, no screen showing departure, had to look at each platform to find the train from along the platform itself. And this on a busy summer day at a seaside terminus with lots of people using your services Not really helped for newcomers to rail being faced with a train with a scrolling screen labelled "Barnstaple" which was (of course) going to Swindon. I have to agree with your comments. I was there on Saturday, went to find the loo, found there was none so went back to the train I had just got off and used the toilet on that. There was a sign suggesting I use toilets on the esplanade and having done that later in the day I can report that they are not exactly close to the station. But they are plentiful unisex cubicles in good condition. And yes I found the front gate locked on my return too. I can't remember if there was a sign pointing to the side entrance. I just knew it was there.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2023, 11:53:08 am » |
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The new CRP▸ struggles to make the station look open and vibrant amongst all the rules  I suspect there ARE loos but they are reserved for staff and customers aren't catered for. Mind you, the one esplanade has special loos for underground ladies, whoever they are. 
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