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« on: July 20, 2019, 12:47:44 pm »

Greetings all,

The GWR website advises that their next timetable changes will come in on 15th December. Good news for Barnstaple line users as well as users of the local stations between Exeter and Newton Abbot too by the looks of things.
https://www.gwr.com/about-us/media-centre/news/2019/july/biggest-timetable-change-since-the-70s-now-only-150-days-away-south-west

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2019, 02:12:16 pm »

I hope there is an earlier train from Paignton on Sundays so you can  get the first London train. I also hope with a half hour Mon-Sat service they can speed up the train times between Newton Abbott and Exeter by abolishing the express train passing at Dawlish Warren.

I know it will stop the signalman playing when the express is running late and he can uses tricks (skill) like using the bi-directional signalling at Dawlish to allow an express to pass.

The trains also need speeding up between Paignton and Newton Abbot but I think there are track problems.
Have they made passive provision for new stations at Edginswell (planning permission runs out this November) and Marsh Barton as we live in hope.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2019, 06:00:20 pm »

There was some question about the Barnstaple services terminating at Exeter St Davids rather than Exeter Central when the timetable is recast.

I wonder if that can now be clarified as it would certainly be a backwards step (and a change of trains or a walk up a steep hill) for those wishing to visit Exeter City centre  and would take the gloss off the timetable improvements.

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2019, 06:09:30 pm »

St. James as far as I know.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2019, 09:06:40 pm »

Surely the trains will be reversing at Exmouth Junction siding (Morrisons) running empty from Exeter Central although I see in the summer timetable the Okehampton trains stop at St James before detraining and reversing.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2019, 10:02:48 pm »

Surely the trains will be reversing at Exmouth Junction siding (Morrisons) running empty from Exeter Central although I see in the summer timetable the Okehampton trains stop at St James before detraining and reversing.

Of course.   Run in service to St James Park and then go and sit/cross over in the siding by Morrisons at Exmouth Jcn until it is time to come back
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2019, 08:31:10 pm »

The Devon Metro timetable will be half hourly Exmouth - Paignton, alternating between fast (Exmouth - Lympstone - Topsham - Newcourt - Digby - Exeter Central - St David's - Dawlish - Teignmouth - Newton - Torre - Torquay - Paignton) and all stopper using 4 car 150s.

Barnstaple - St James Park hourly using 158s/16x.

Still in the potential offing Okehampton - Exeter 3 morning, 3 evening services using 143s.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2019, 10:08:06 pm »

Still in the potential offing Okehampton - Exeter 3 morning, 3 evening services using 143s.
Good move but I guess may not happen in the December 2019 changes unless GWR have come up with something. Could be spaced 30 minutes apart from the Barnstaple trains perhaps.

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2019, 08:27:16 am »

Still in the potential offing Okehampton - Exeter 3 morning, 3 evening services using 143s.
Good move but I guess may not happen in the December 2019 changes unless GWR have come up with something. Could be spaced 30 minutes apart from the Barnstaple trains perhaps.

Dave

I was under the impression that the 143s were off-lease in December
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2019, 09:22:36 am »

Still in the potential offing Okehampton - Exeter 3 morning, 3 evening services using 143s.
Good move but I guess may not happen in the December 2019 changes unless GWR have come up with something. Could be spaced 30 minutes apart from the Barnstaple trains perhaps.

Dave

I was under the impression that the 143s were off-lease in December

GWR own 2 outright.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2019, 02:15:59 pm »

Class 143s can't be used after 31 December, unless fitted with all the disability mod-comms (which none are receiving).
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2019, 12:14:36 am »

They could be used if the Secretary of State for Transport grants derogations.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2019, 09:34:50 am »

They could be used if the Secretary of State for Transport grants derogations.

Whoever that might be by the end of the week...
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2019, 09:49:04 pm »

The Devon Metro timetable will be half hourly Exmouth - Paignton, alternating between fast (Exmouth - Lympstone - Topsham - Newcourt - Digby - Exeter Central - St David's - Dawlish - Teignmouth - Newton - Torre - Torquay - Paignton) and all stopper using 4 car 150s.

Barnstaple - St James Park hourly using 158s/16x.

Still in the potential offing Okehampton - Exeter 3 morning, 3 evening services using 143s.
Indeed so. Someone on a railway discussion site made the latest info, described as a "Confirmed plan based on timetable offer" and dated July 2019, available as a download. Having read the file end-to-end there are some really good improvements coming up for December. In respect of the Barnstaple line the document - which is an official GWR one - says that, in addition to Mondays to Saturdays, the Barnstaple line will also be hourly on Sundays with trains terminating at St. James Park.

Certainly still not a final version but I like what I read.

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2019, 10:45:13 pm »

They could be used if the Secretary of State for Transport grants derogations.

More likely if they simply locked the toilet out of use
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