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« on: August 12, 2019, 10:03:14 am »

Is it just me ... or are the power points on trains out of action quite often?
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 11:36:56 am »

Is it just me ... or are the power points on trains out of action quite often?

I find that USB sockets are worse for that with them easily breaking (in First Class, on Turbos and on newer buses as well)
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2019, 06:51:40 pm »

Part of the problem is that the public can bring any old thing and plug it in, so the RCD trips.  It is amazing what is found plugged in sometimes, no PAT for the general public.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2019, 07:39:44 pm »

Part of the problem is that the public can bring any old thing and plug it in, so the RCD trips.  It is amazing what is found plugged in sometimes, no PAT for the general public.

Makes sense ...

But all I wanted was to listen to the radio and have a cup of coffee ...  Grin

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2019, 08:05:18 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2019, 08:42:10 pm »

I will admit to having plugged an electric fan into an onboard socket on a train ! Against the rules no doubt but it was VERY hot. Uses less power than many laptops, so I doubt that I broke anything.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2019, 09:28:03 pm »

I will admit to having plugged an electric fan into an onboard socket on a train ! Against the rules no doubt but it was VERY hot. Uses less power than many laptops, so I doubt that I broke anything.

BUT that looks like a standard class seat you are sitting in. Was there no First or buffet car? Ah well, at least the fan will keep your sandwiches and bottled beer cool.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2019, 10:02:35 pm »

Part of the problem is that the public can bring any old thing and plug it in, so the RCD trips.  It is amazing what is found plugged in sometimes, no PAT for the general public.

Makes sense ...

But all I wanted was to listen to the radio and have a cup of coffee ...  Grin



Now you will give a member of this forum an idea.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2019, 11:40:31 pm »

I will admit to having plugged an electric fan into an onboard socket on a train ! Against the rules no doubt but it was VERY hot. Uses less power than many laptops, so I doubt that I broke anything.

BUT that looks like a standard class seat you are sitting in. Was there no First or buffet car? Ah well, at least the fan will keep your sandwiches and bottled beer cool.

It is not me in the picture. Train looks like Looks like a networker, or something very similar. No buffet on networkers. A few have first class.
The longer distance networkers were intended to have a mini buffet, as they were replacements for the slam door "kent coast" stock which had full buffets.
I think that the picture MIGHT show the area intended for mini buffet. Note the non standard bulkhead behind one row of seats. And of course the power socket which AFAIK is not intended for customer use.
And BTW, an electric fan wont cool sandwiches or beer under any normal circumstances.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2019, 05:53:13 am »

I will admit to having plugged an electric fan into an onboard socket on a train ! Against the rules no doubt but it was VERY hot. Uses less power than many laptops, so I doubt that I broke anything.

BUT that looks like a standard class seat you are sitting in. Was there no First or buffet car? Ah well, at least the fan will keep your sandwiches and bottled beer cool.

It is not me in the picture. Train looks like Looks like a networker, or something very similar. No buffet on networkers. A few have first class.
The longer distance networkers were intended to have a mini buffet, as they were replacements for the slam door "kent coast" stock which had full buffets.
I think that the picture MIGHT show the area intended for mini buffet. Note the non standard bulkhead behind one row of seats. And of course the power socket which AFAIK is not intended for customer use.
And BTW, an electric fan wont cool sandwiches or beer under any normal circumstances.

Broadgage has a punkah wallah to take care of that sort of thing, as well as a retinue of bearers to transport a side of beef and a barrel of Port should he ever feel thirsty/peckish......the local militia can be relied upon to clear the rabble out of the way in order that he has a compartment to himself with adequate storage for his sedan chair in the Guard's van.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2019, 07:55:37 am »

I will admit to having plugged an electric fan into an onboard socket on a train ! Against the rules no doubt but it was VERY hot. Uses less power than many laptops, so I doubt that I broke anything.

Unlike the woman who plugged her curling tongs into a power socket on an HST.  Luckily I was sitting the other side of the aisle and an HST has separate power circuits down each side of the carriage.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2019, 11:23:31 am »

I find the location of the sockets in the IET most inconvenient! 

On the HST, the scoket being behind the seat in front was fine - could prop phone/table on the table and get in/out without issue.

Now with the IET if you're in the window seat, you have to carefully climb over the cable as it plugs into your own seat rather than the seat in front!  Usually i end up knocking my phone onto the floor as the cable gets caught round my leg!

The same with tables - why not have the sockets in the wall where they used to be!
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2019, 02:53:38 pm »

I find the location of the sockets in the IET most inconvenient! 

On the HST, the scoket being behind the seat in front was fine - could prop phone/table on the table and get in/out without issue.

Now with the IET if you're in the window seat, you have to carefully climb over the cable as it plugs into your own seat rather than the seat in front!  Usually i end up knocking my phone onto the floor as the cable gets caught round my leg!

The same with tables - why not have the sockets in the wall where they used to be!

I've said the same for some time, ever since the mock up was producd in fact.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2019, 08:27:07 pm »

The same with tables - why not have the sockets in the wall where they used to be!

Sold to me that having them on the wall isn't great because you may have to reach over a stranger if you're in the aisle seat.   OK  - I understand that but I do wonder if one 'issue' is resolved and another created.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2019, 12:43:13 pm »

Speaking as someone who has two non functioning wrists and one non functioning elbow (due to infection), the IET sockets are completely out of the question for me. However, I am promised a new elbow early next year, and then, maybe, two new wrists, by which time I expect that they may have moved the sockets to a less ridiculous position.
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