Train Graphic
Great Western Passengers' Forum Great Western Coffee Shop - [home] and [about]
Read about the forum [here].
Register and contribute [here] - it's free.
article index - [here]
 16/10/2019 - MRUG meeting
16/10/2019 - ACoRP board nominations close
18/10/2019 - TravelWatch SouthWest
18/10/2019 - GWR meet the team - Westbury
19/10/2019 - MRUG/CS "Thank you" BBQ
21/10/2019 - Ticket booking test - BRI
Random Image
Train Running @GWR Twitter Acronyms/Abbreviations Station Comparator Rail news GWR co. site Site Style 1 2 3 4 Chat on off
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
October 14, 2019, 11:25:31 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most liked recent subjects
[96] IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent pe...
[88] Collapse of Thomas Cook
[82] On crossing borders by public transport - to and within the UK...
[75] What would you advertise on the floor of your station
[56] GWR Customer panel meetings - Bristol, Cardiff and Plymouth, A...
[41] Anniversary - 13th October 1928 - accident at Charfield
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: North Downs December 2019 timetable changes and lack of investment  (Read 838 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 26721



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2019, 05:45:25 pm »

The continued frustration of both passenger groups and GWR at the lack of improvements possible on the North Downs line was made very clear at today's GWR stakeholder conference.  With  a very clear message that GWR really want it to happen, but aren't able / allowed to do so because of limits to what the infrastructure provider is willing and able to let them do.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and of RailFuture
eightonedee
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 460



View Profile
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2019, 07:24:24 pm »

Quote
According to a post on railforums, the 3tph service on the North Downs Line, much delayed, is now happening next May.


Really? Where are they going to get the rolling stock from if the 769s are not available by then - or if they are as unsuitable as recent posts imply?
Logged
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 4166


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2019, 07:45:22 pm »

Quote
According to a post on railforums, the 3tph service on the North Downs Line, much delayed, is now happening next May.


Really? Where are they going to get the rolling stock from if the 769s are not available by then - or if they are as unsuitable as recent posts imply?

I think you're forgetting that May 2020 is in the future. There are no facts in the future - only such as prediction, beliefs, estimates or, as in this case, plans (several meanings). As GWR currently plan to use these trains, they (involving NR etc.) are drawing up detailed plans do implement that. If something prevents that plan happening, new plans will be needed. Or do I mean when?
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 26721



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2019, 08:00:14 pm »

At the Stakeholder conference yesterday, we were told that a second 'production line' was to be opened for GWR 769s so that they're not waiting for units to follow follow other TOC's orders.   Also, notably, the minister told us (wit a prompt from his civil servants in the back of the room) that there will be a dispensation to allow the 143s to stay into the new year.   Finally, the minister spoke as if five car suburban trains are already pretty standard in the Bristol area, and I suspect a bit of later-than-planned-even-now lengthening could provide ....

Then of course the 125 group may be able to lend a castle ...
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and of RailFuture
TonyK
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4533


The artist formerly known as Four Track, Now!


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2019, 11:08:05 pm »

Just a warning to people to expect timetabling changes on the Gatwick to Reading line in December.


Sunfire, we have forgotten our manners - welcome to the Great Western Passengers' Forum! And thank you for a useful heads-up.
Logged

Now, please!
FenMan
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 10


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 12:29:46 am »

At the Stakeholder conference yesterday, we were told that a second 'production line' was to be opened for GWR 769s so that they're not waiting for units to follow follow other TOC's orders. 

Hmm, that'll hurt the ROSCO's profit margin. That GWR have applied pressure, and the ROSCO has buckled, says plenty.

Smells of last chance saloon to me. I await developments with interest.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page