Train Graphic
Great Western Passengers' Forum
 
Great Western Coffee Shop - [home] and [about]
Read about the forum [here].
Register and contribute [here] - it's free.
Correct, not at all, or with caution? - [here]
 today - GW Modernisation, Chipp. Civic
tomorrow - Melksham RUG
08/02/2020 - Crewe Railwayana Auction
14/02/2020 - Close - ORR Consult RRBuses
14/02/2020 - FOSBR AGM
18/02/2020 - Electrification lecture
Random Image
Train Running @GWR Twitter Acronyms/Abbreviations Station Comparator Rail news GWR co. site Site Style 1 2 3 4 Chat on off
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 21, 2020, 01:44:48 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most liked recent subjects
[96] Pewsey Vale Railway Society - dates
[80] Lifts at Gloucester - 19 Jan 20
[55] IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent pe...
[53] Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion
[44] Newhaven Marine. Closure consultation, January 2020.
[41] Cornwall and Plymouth Usage Figures Apr 2018 - Mar 2019
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Linked Events
  • UK General Election: December 12, 2019
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]
  Print  
Author Topic: General election - policies on Transport - what should we look or ask for?  (Read 2969 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 27782



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2019, 05:11:50 am »

1. Increasing demand. The railways are hardly coping with the demand they've got in the peak at the moment.

2. Potentially even more long distance commuting. In my view (and who knows broadgage might agree with me Smiley ) commuting is the elephant in the room when looked at in relation to CO2 emmissions. ...

3. If long-distance commuting did increase we may see an increasing number of pleasant market towns and villages turning into ghost towns during the day as most of the working age population clears off for the day. ...

On your point 2 ... long distance community into London is already being actively encouraged.  New "Superfast" trains - initially in the peak - will should whisk people from Chippenham none-stop to London as from 16th December, in the process nearly doubling the maximum peak hour gap between trains from Chippenham for the shorter commute to Swindon.  A new train at 05:23 from Trowbridge and 05:33 from Melksham will provide an interchange at Swindon for a London arrival scheduled by 07:00, and the final train back has been pushed from a London departure of 19:00 to 19:12 last year (Monday to Thursday) and 19:48 from 16th December.  Still too early for taking in a show or leisure activities in Swindon - but great for the London commuter.

Large numbers of new homes are being built in Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge, and there's even a new station proposed at Ashton Park just south of Trowbridge in an area to be covered with houses.  This suggestion cm not from the community wanting a station, but left field from a local government / LEP study looking ahead at rail development across the area.

I will admit to liking commuters, mind you.  Without them, we could not have got even close to the target passenger numbers during our 2013 - 2016 trial service period, let alone coming in with twice the requested numbers.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and of RailFuture
TonyK
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4716


The artist formerly known as Four Track, Now!


View Profile
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2019, 03:53:16 pm »


I am going - at the risk (!) of being a bit selective

Quote
Here the most curious reference seems to be the Conservative Party, which singles out Fleetwood and Willenhall as places that have ďsuffered permanent disadvantageĒ after being removed from the rail network, but makes no mention of the many other viable re-opening schemes that have been under discussion for a long time.

Fleetwood has been more damaged by its removal from the fishing industry than by disconnection from the national railway. It is now connected to Blackpool by the modern light railway that replaced much of the old tramway, and will soon be connected directly to Blackpool North station as soon as the Wilko store in the way is gone.

2019-02-16 019 by John McCarthy, on Flickr

I have it on authority that discussion is moving forward quite smoothly on rebuilding the former Fleetwood rail line as an extension of the light rail system from round about Fleetwood Football Club to Poulton-le-Fylde station. There, it will deliver passengers to the ultra-modern 25 KV AC railway. Further plans are afoot to extend the North Station spur to Victoria Hospital, and to run trams to Lytham St Annes alongside the existing heavy rail line to Blackpool South. In both cases, there is plenty of former industrial land upon which new houses could be built, to add to the benefit offered by greater connectivity. My source, btw, is a conservative town councillor, who is so mad about trams that he moved house to be able to see them more.
Logged

Now, please!
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3240

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2019, 04:27:16 pm »

I've seen the opinion polls, and I think I know how this election is going to pan out (more or less) - but something rather surprised me today. I drove along the A370 from Weston to Bristol, looking out for political signs and posters. I'd normally expect to see dozens of 'Vote Conservative' signs here, but I saw none at all; just two Lib Dem signs and an EU flag.

Interesting times.


I offer you some suggestions

a) I've heard suggestions that the Conservatives aren't pushing to get lots of posters out there in order to show their core voters that they need to vote - that the election is not a foregone conclusion

b) as an alternative, I've heard there might be a last week short / sharp postering campaign to help surge the Tory vote

c) You need to be far braver in this election than in previous ones to put up a sign.  We put one up and have been vandalised for the first time in 20 years in Melksham.  At first we thought "local twits" but then others reported vandalism too - similar 'signature' and a long way from being on someone's way home from the pub!

d) Many families are split and can't agree within their household

Had the conversation with my barber today. We both came to the conclusion were on the fence in multiple directions. Our incumbent MP only ever tows the party line. She blocks anyone from social media that so much as questions her on anything she canít answer in the party line.
The Lib Dem bloke is a well known local advocate and does a lot of community work, but could we vote for Lib Demís, is it a wasted vote here when itís a Tory Labour two horse race pretty much
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 27782



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2019, 06:19:22 pm »

Had the conversation with my barber today. We both came to the conclusion were on the fence in multiple directions. Our incumbent MP only ever tows the party line. She blocks anyone from social media that so much as questions her on anything she canít answer in the party line.
The Lib Dem bloke is a well known local advocate and does a lot of community work, but could we vote for Lib Demís, is it a wasted vote here when itís a Tory Labour two horse race pretty much

I'm not so sure ... I look at the numbers and see it as one horse ... but if that horse should stumble, there are two other horses quite close behind it.    From the last general election:

Quote
Conservative - Sheryll Murray   Votes29,493
Labour - Gareth Derrick   Votes12,050
Liberal Democrat - Phil Hutty   Votes10,346
Green Party - Martin Corney   Votes1,335
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and of RailFuture
broadgage
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2994



View Profile
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2019, 10:58:46 am »

Is the promised fare reduction in addition to the free unicorn* for every child, or instead ?
*vegan alternative under discussion.

Unicorn for every child now cancelled.
Logged

A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
rogerw
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 816



View Profile
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2019, 12:10:59 pm »

After I had cornered the market in Unicorns as well  Wink Wink
Logged

I like to travel.  It lets me feel I'm getting somewhere.
broadgage
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2994



View Profile
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2019, 02:39:19 pm »

After I had cornered the market in Unicorns as well  Wink Wink

"Wicked fat cat privateers corner the market in unicorns and thereby profiteer at the expense of needy children. If elected, the labour party will ban profiteering from unicorns, by introducing statutory price controls, and will set up state unicorn farms, to be run by workers co=operatives for the common good, without private profit"
Logged

A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page