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« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2020, 02:44:08 pm »

Whatever to pros and cons of Crossrail, however the pandemic pans out, and whoever wins the mayoral election, Crossrail will get finished one day. There is simply not enough capacity to shift everyone from A to B across London, as well as into and out of the capital from its dormitories. It may be that with office workers taking up residence in the study permanently, banks fleeing to the continent to escape Brexit, Oxford Street becoming a row of high class charity shops and all the supporting cast of newsagents, coffee shops and the like going to the wall, that London will be a lot less busy. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it long term, and if you look back to when Crossrail was first proposed, you can see that it is very much a long-term job. Whether it connects Birmingham to the City, replaces or augments some underground lines or lets city workers live in Reading and have a one-train journey to work isn't really relevant. What matters is that more people can get around more easily, new through routes are possibly, and the pressure is eased on the rest of the network. Politics or no politics, it will have whatever money it needs to get finished.
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« Reply #91 on: December 02, 2020, 07:23:05 pm »

I agree, the overspending and delays are regrettable, but leaving the project three quarters built and substantially unusable was not a realistic option.

We know not what the future holds, but I fully expect that Crossrail will be well used when it eventually opens. For decades, rising passenger numbers within London or indeed further afield have simply resulted in worse overcrowding rather than in more capacity.
Nice to see some extra capacity actually being built.
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« Reply #92 on: December 02, 2020, 09:51:24 pm »

It will be well used because it takes over two existing commuter services. How much extra traffic it generates we'll have to see.

At first it is only taking revenue from GWR (Great Western Railway) and Anglia and giving it to TFL (Transport for London)
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« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2020, 07:49:27 am »

Always seems to me that the real benefit of Crossrail to the underground network is relief on the sub-surface section east of Paddington where three routes share the same tracks to Aldgate.

It is a bit wider than that, it will indeed easy the loading on the Circle, H&S (Health and Safety), District and Met, it will a bigger impact on the Jubilee and from Padd the Bakerloo, likewise from the East it will relive the Jubilee and Central from the SE it opens up new routes into the City, Westend and Docklands.

The other key benefit for travellers from the west will be the Farringdon interchange with Thameslink giving easy access to services to Cambridge, Peterborough also for those east of Reading easier access South to Gatwick etc

It is easy to look at Crossrail in the very short term of the Covid impact, Crossrail will still be here in a 100 years when Covid will be an event in history as the Spanish flu is to us of a 100 years ago.

The one thing I have learnt in my 45 year railway engineering career is what I am renewing now another engineer designed and installed it over 50, 70 ........... 100 years ago and what I am seeing the designs for and witnessing the build of will be in service long after I am in my pine box.

The politicians are circulating ready to pull the corps of the Crossrail project apart once its complete so they can walk away with trophies to aid their prospects at elections, it is the nature of UK (United Kingdom) politics
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« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2020, 12:14:21 am »

I came across this on Youtube. For those that cannot wait for Crossrail to fully open this drivers eye view from Abbey Wood to Paddington might tide you over for a bit.
I must admit I rather enjoyed this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHjoav_sb88
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« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2020, 01:59:59 am »

Thanks for the link.

We?re being kept waiting, but, boy, what a cracking piece of railway infrastructure.
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« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2020, 09:41:47 am »

Crossrail are cross.
The Video has been removed due to a copyright claim by Crossrail.
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« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2020, 11:51:14 am »

Crossrail are cross.
The Video has been removed due to a copyright claim by Crossrail.

I didn't see that video. was it the same as the one here at ITV News?

I'm not sure how long ITV News reports stay online.
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« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2020, 01:22:53 pm »

I didn't see that video. was it the same as the one here at ITV News?

It was the same video but running in realtime in 4K rather than timelapsed.
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« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2020, 09:52:04 pm »

From the official Crossrail site

https://youtu.be/r1HZHDTjGSw
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« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2020, 11:24:51 am »

 The train stopped in the eastbound track and did not go into the turnback sidings which all looked occupied.
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« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2020, 11:37:44 am »

Yes, although for the time being all lines are acting as turnback sidings in effect.
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« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2020, 12:19:04 pm »

We?re being kept waiting, but, boy, what a cracking piece of railway infrastructure.

Absolutely!
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« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2021, 08:58:35 am »

Crossrail?s revised cost and opening date are under ?significant pressure? due to an ?under-resourced? and ?over-stretched? workforce, Jacobs latest Project Representative (Prep) reports conclude - https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/over-stretched-workforce-puts-crossrail-schedule-under-significant-pressure-25-01-2021/

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« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2021, 09:42:14 am »

Crossrail?s revised cost and opening date are under ?significant pressure? due to an ?under-resourced? and ?over-stretched? workforce, Jacobs latest Project Representative (Prep) reports conclude - https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/over-stretched-workforce-puts-crossrail-schedule-under-significant-pressure-25-01-2021/



Pretty dreadful really but I doubt many will be surprised, and to paraphrase a Blair spin Doctor, it's a good time to bury bad news.

When NCE asked HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) Ltd how many of its staff had been recruited directly from Crossrail ? via a Freedom of Information request submitted in September 2020 ? HS2 Ltd said that it was ?unable to answer [the] request using current reporting tools? because its ?data is not organised in such a way?. - I very much doubt the Information Commissioner would let them get away with that one if pushed.
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