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« on: February 22, 2020, 05:03:03 pm »

Greta Thunberg writes

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Heading for the UK!

This Friday, the 28th, Im looking forward to joining the school strike in Bristol! We meet up at College Green 11am! See you there!

and from this morning (22nd Feb 2020)
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Greta Thunberg's message to politicians is clear: " We need to see real action now."



There have been heated discussions as to whether calling for "real action" is anything like as important as actually taking that action. While a significant number of people remain who are not taking action and indeed while some are still denying the need, both calling for action and taking that action are important. No comparative - it's not a question of ranking one against the other.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2020, 05:15:18 pm »

So Grahame, I think you are asking Coffee Shop members to support a school strike (ridiculous and pointless of course).  A bit away from our mission statement etc, but I suppose its your Coffee Shop so we must allow you some latitude ..
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 05:41:37 pm »

So Grahame, I think you are asking Coffee Shop members to support a school strike (ridiculous and pointless of course).  A bit away from our mission statement etc, but I suppose its your Coffee Shop so we must allow you some latitude ..

I'm telling you it's happening. And I'm telling you I believe that there's a need to keep calls to act on climate change reaching those who can actually make it happen, and those in positions of power / authority who can prioritise others to make it happen.   Whether you choose to use the information about the event to support it, to keep the heck out of Bristol that day, or to describe it as you have done is your choice.

From a Somerset briefing by their county council, I read "The majority of emissions in Somerset derive from the transport sector 46.7%, compared to 29.5% from industry and 23.8% from the domestic sector".   I believe it is prudent to reduce those emissions from the transport sector.  Part of that is moving people from less 'clean' modes of transport to more clean ones, and part of the is cleaning up even the modes we're encouraging them to move to.    For sure it's a long way from a fare or delay-repay query, but it's still very much transport - and public transport too - related discussions and actions.   And they are part of what publicity stunts (if you like to call the school strike that) help propel up the agenda.

When you think back, can you imagine 5 years ago Somerset County Council organising a climate changed survey?  Perhaps the antics of groups such as you'll see next Friday have been one string on the bow of what's brought it onto their agenda?
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2020, 12:35:01 am »

From First Bus Bristol - have your say

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Greta Thunberg is coming to Bristol on Friday ! This is to take part in the climate change demonstration ! This will undoubtedly will mean that there will be a MASSIVE TURN OUT FOR THIS EVENT !!!!!!! The media will be all over it like a rash ! The crowds will be enormous ! The disruption to the city centre will be massive !!!! Please if you can find an alternative way to get in and out of Bristol then do so !

If not then please be patient with the public transport and the drivers that will be running late !!!! They won't have seen a break ! Their lunch or a toilet in hours !!!!!! Sky news ! BBC news ! ITV news they will all be there to cover this event ! Greta Thunberg is the hip thing at the moment ! And she will have a massive impact on your travel plans ! SO PLAN AHEAD PEOPLE !!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2020, 12:43:39 am »

I too would like to see joined-up cleaned-up transport, but at the rate things move, I fear that not only will all glaciers have melted by the time something is done, but new ones will have appeared. Greta Thonburg has done a remarkable job of raising the profile of the issue, and I am sure she will be welcomed with something close to ecstasy in Bristol. Mayor Marvin Rees will surely want his picture taken with her before finishing the order for more diesel vehicles for the council, and the Greens will get a look in. Then those with homes will go back to them, public transport will resume where it left off, and all will be as it was on Thursday.

I hope that the burden of arguably the world's biggest problem won't weigh too heavily on the young woman's shoulders. There are many who will turn out for a rock star but not the supporting acts, and she can't do it all herself. One day, the world will have a serious conversation about what is wrong and what to do about it, following the reignition of the debate that she has caused. In the meantime, we will chase a few targets here and there while business lobbies governments and not much happens. The scale of what needs to be done in this country alone to remove fossil fuels from the energy mix hasn't been realised by very many people yet, and if there is a plan for doing it, I have yet to spot it.

If she wants to know how it should be done, we can always let her take a ride on MetroBust via the opposite side of the New Cut rather than the currently defunct pointless guided bit.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2020, 01:23:21 am »

How much extra pollution will be caused by Jemima or Tarquin ringing up the chauffeur on the latest 5G smartphone to pick them up from Waitrose or Harvey Nicks in the Rolls Royce to take them back to Clifton......or more likely Wayne or Sharon ringing Dad from a call box that only takes coins, to pick them up in the rusting red metro from 1981 from McDonald's or Primark to take them back to Art Cliff......

It would be supremely ironic if Greta had to be helicoptered in and out of the event for her own personal safety.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2020, 08:09:14 am »

When is she appearing at these events in the worst polluting nation such as Russia and China rather than Britain which is making huge improvement already?

Graham - if you could let me have the corresponding dates for Beijing and Moscow I'd be grateful and I'll make sure I "plan ahead" accordingly.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2020, 08:44:15 am »

I am disappointed to report that I have no plans to be anywhere near Bristol next Friday so will miss out on this marvellous opportunity to indulge in some collective virtue signalling.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2020, 09:32:52 am »

I am disappointed to report that I have no plans to be anywhere near Bristol next Friday so will miss out on this marvellous opportunity to indulge in some collective virtue signalling.

I plan to be there if only to highlight the inordinate time it takes to do anything, plenty of time to gob about plans but action ....0
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2020, 09:59:11 am »

My daughter asked to attend a school strike in the summer, and I went with her because she finds crowds a bit scary. It was the first time she'd ever been to a 'demo', and I was focusing on her and whether she was OK. It was only when she overcame her shyness and held up the banner she'd made that I realised that this was my first demo too!

What's the point? Is it virtue signalling?

The strike I attended was one of the largest to date. I thought many people would be getting grumpy because they could not get about, but this was absolutely not the case. Bus drivers, their engines switched off, were high-fiving the kids as they walked past. Cafe owners were coming out onto the street to give them free drinks.

Being there gave me something that is in pitifully short supply at the moment: hope.

And for what it's worth: Greta Thunberg says she's coming by train. My daughter (whose name is not Jemima) and I will walk there.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2020, 10:07:49 am »



And for what it's worth: Greta Thunberg says she's coming by train. My daughter (whose name is not Jemima) and I will walk there.

Have a good day Tarquin  Wink

What route is she following to get to Bristol from Sweden by train? Is split ticketing available?
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2020, 10:21:07 am »

When is she appearing at these events in the worst polluting nation such as Russia and China rather than Britain which is making huge improvement already?

Graham - if you could let me have the corresponding dates for Beijing and Moscow I'd be grateful and I'll make sure I "plan ahead" accordingly.
China has a lower carbon footprint per capita by consumption than the UK. We just choose to outsource the production of most of our stuff to China which produces it using energy produced by carbon heavy means and then incurring more carbon consumption to ship it half way around the world.  All so we can get things cheaper and kid ourselves that a few offshore windmills is helping us become carbon neutral. Not that the UK is alone in doing that mind you.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2020, 10:48:02 am »


Little Greta will be a double benefit; not only will she draw attention to climate change but also she will soften the schools' present financial crisis when head teachers fine the many parents for their high minded offsprings' absences.

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2020, 11:06:52 am »


What route is she following to get to Bristol from Sweden by train? Is split ticketing available?

Yes. Split at Didct.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2020, 11:38:53 am »

I'm waiting to hear the call for the rejection of constantly, or at least frequently, upgraded new hand held mobile electronic devices by those who make up it's key market.
These are largely produced in countries using carbon heavy means and are made of rare and precious minerals and metals which themselves are mined in an ecologically destructive manner.

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