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« on: May 02, 2020, 12:35:58 am »

https://www.transportxtra.com/publications/local-transport-today/news/65298/dft-sifts-60-new-rail-plans

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Sixty proposals for railway reopenings in England have been submitted to the ideas funding stream of the DfT’s Restoring Your Railway fund.

The applications will be considered by a panel chaired by rail minister Chris Heaton-Harris. The other members are: Simon Clarke, the minister for regional growth and local government; Sir Peter Hendy, the chair of Network Rail; Jackie Sadek, the chief executive of UK Regeneration; and Isabel Dedring, global transport leader at consultant Arup.

The DfT will write to applicants in May to update them on the progress of their application.

Unsuccessful applicants will receive advice from the Department, to help them develop their application for consideration in a later round.

The deadline for the second round of applications is 22 May to register an interest and 19 June to submit applications.

In recognition that many council staff are pre-occupied with Covid-19 issues, a third round of applications will take place in November.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 09:34:43 am »

Lostwithiel to Fowey is one of the 60.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2020, 10:52:44 am »

This is interesting. Even if it only results in one or two ideas being taken forward this time, it could provide a channel for reopenings. It could also, of course, just add an extra layer to the aleady tortuous road to refusal.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2020, 11:54:29 am »

This is interesting. Even if it only results in one or two ideas being taken forward this time, it could provide a channel for reopenings. It could also, of course, just add an extra layer to the aleady tortuous road to refusal.
I have to agree. Whether any proposals get taken forward or even, heaven forbid!, be implemented will depend not so much on the need for any of the proposals but on the political and economic situation when the time comes to spend serious money. At current prices new or re-opened railways cost in the order of £20 million to £40 million per mile. Roads can be a bit cheaper, although they take more land, because the expensive bit of the railway - the signalling and control systems - are in the individual vehicles so don't count. The planning and legal palaver is very similar for both modes.

In any case, don't hold your breath. Even if a scheme is selected and funded for development it will take a minimum of five or eight years before the statutory, legal and parliamentary stages are completed. Allowing three years for construction the first schemes won't operational until 2031 or 2032 at the earliest.

That's probably two General Elections away...
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2020, 12:16:36 pm »

Not GWR territory, but I really hope Burton-Leicester is in there. A lower-hanging fruit is more difficult to imagine, especially given the appalling congestion on local roads.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 09:32:50 am »

Does anyone know if the list will be/has been made public at some point and/or what other schemes in GW-land are on it?
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 01:19:55 pm »

Does anyone know if the list will be/has been made public at some point and/or what other schemes in GW-land are on it?
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No immediate list, but question has been asked.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2020, 11:45:50 am »

Does anyone know if the list will be/has been made public at some point and/or what other schemes in GW-land are on it?
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No immediate list, but question has been asked.

No news yet on the first round ... any intelligence gratefully received. With a 22nd May deadline to register interest for round 2, I hope the applicants in round 1 hear soon so they can either progress the case or register that they will update.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2020, 02:38:22 pm »

Does anyone know if the list will be/has been made public at some point and/or what other schemes in GW-land are on it?
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From press release notes from this morning's.   from the DfT ... a list of the ten projects.   I have quoted the full notes to editors as I can't see them anywhere on the web site

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· Also under consideration is new guidance for privately owned car parks, such as those outside cinemas, and bike and e-bike rental companies to help them set up ‘park and walk/cycle’ schemes in areas across the UK - helping create more options for greener inner-city travel.

Light rail/buses funding

· Backdated to 12 May, the £283m investment will help increase bus and light rail services in line with social distancing guidelines, with measures to keep staff and passengers safe during the pandemic, including adjustments to vehicles, signage, deep cleaning and the provision of hand sanitiser.

· The light rail funding will support operators in Sheffield, Nottingham, Tyne and Wear, Manchester and the West Midlands.

A66

· The A66 is an important local and regional road, linking the east and west of northern England across the Pennines, from the M6 junction 40 at Penrith to the A1(M) at Scotch Corner.

· Results from the public consultation held last year as well as other important factors including minimising community severance and ensuring environmental protection were used to select the preferred route.

· Following preferred route announcement, Highways England will commence a range of engagement activities including holding focus groups with local stakeholders. In the coming months the project will move into the preliminary design phase which will involve more detailed surveys and refinement of the scheme design in preparation for the statutory public consultation in 2021.

Volunteering Matters

· Volunteering Matters are a key part of the Voluntary and Community Sector Emergency Partnership. This partnership was established in 2017 following the Grenfell fire to assist coordination amongst voluntary and community sector agencies, with DCMS providing a grant of £200,000 to the Partnership in March to support its working in response to COVID-19.

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· Bids progressing to the next stage come from across the country and include proposals to reinstate the Ivanhoe line in the East Midlands, and the Clitheroe-Hellifield line in the North West, as well as to reopen the Wellington and Cullompton stations in the South West. These rail links will help reconnect towns, ease congestion, regenerate economies and improve accessibility to jobs, homes and education.

· The Transport Secretary has also agreed to give £5m to further develop the plan to reinstate passenger services on the Ashington-Blyth-Tyne Line in Northumberland, in addition to the £1.5m initially pledged.

· Several lines and stations closed under Beeching have already been successfully re-opened. Todmorden Curve in West Yorkshire re-opened in 2015, enabling direct services from Burnley and Accrington to Manchester for the first time in forty years. The nineteen-mile Ebbw Vale branch line in South Wales, closed to passengers in 1962, was reopened in 2008 - with passenger demand exceeding predictions by 450%.

· The list of successful bids for this round is below:

Reopening Meir Railway Station between Stoke-On-Trent and North Staffordshire

Reinstatement of the Barrow Hill line between Sheffield and Chesterfield

Reinstatement of the Ivanhoe line

Reinstatement of branch lines on the Isle of Wight

Reinstatement of the Abbey line between St Albans Abbey and Watford Junction

Reopening of Wellington and Cullompton stations

Reinstatement of the Bury-Heywood-Rochdale lines

Reinstatement of the Clitheroe to Hellifield railway line

Reinstatement of rail access to Devizes via a new station at Lydeway

Reintroduction of passenger rail services on the Waterside line

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1. Cullompton and Wellington

2. Lydeway (Devizes Parkway)

Two close to our area

3. Waterside line (Southampton to Fawley)

4. Branch lines on the Isle of Wight
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2020, 04:04:28 pm »

'Reinstatement' of the Clitheroe - Hellifield Line is a bit disingenuous, or at least over-egged. There is a extant and used two track railway between those two towns with a Sunday passenger service. Maybe a reinstatement of weekday passenger service - hopefully with reopening of some intermediate stations - long closed.

Reinstatement of the nearby Colne - Skipton route - closed by Barbera Castle, not Richard Beeching - would be a proper and useful reinstatement.

Also 'Reinstatement of the Bury-Heywood-Rochdale lines'. As far as I am aware there is a single track railway on that route right now. And without CoVid, the East Lancashire Railway would be operating trains between between the first two localities.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2020, 04:47:15 pm »

If you think  the claim that a Clitheroe to Hellifield reopening is a little disingenuous, how about Watford to St Albans Abbey which is open and overhead electrified!!
It currently has a bus service because of the virus. Is this the start of there being a reopening inquiry after each time there is a bus replacement service???!! Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2020, 04:52:53 pm »

If you think  the claim that a Clitheroe to Hellifield reopening is a little disingenuous, how about Watford to St Albans Abbey which is open and overhead electrified!!
It currently has a bus service because of the virus. Is this the start of there being a reopening inquiry after each time there is a bus replacement service???!! Smiley

I'm guessing it's the Bricket Wood passing loop that is being talked about re Watford - St Albans. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2020, 06:41:56 pm »

If you think  the claim that a Clitheroe to Hellifield reopening is a little disingenuous, how about Watford to St Albans Abbey which is open and overhead electrified!!
It currently has a bus service because of the virus. Is this the start of there being a reopening inquiry after each time there is a bus replacement service???!! Smiley

I'm guessing it's the Bricket Wood passing loop that is being talked about re Watford - St Albans. 

Probably ... that's what's been talked about.    The line currently runs at train capacity with a service every 45 minutes which is rather too thin and very messy in terms of remembering when it's running - far from clock face.  http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/nrtt20/Table%20061.pdf . I used it a couple of years back ... took the connecting transfer bus from St Albans City to St Albans Abbey - got stuck in traffic and the bus designed to connect didn't.   On a short intermodal journey, a 45 minute wait feels a long time - even when poking round to take some good pictures for a quiz.

30 minute service, trains passing in the middle, sounds sensible and I expect the money is to work out in more detail than has been done so far ...
a) is it sensible
b) how would it be done
c) what would it cost

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30 minute service, trains passing in the middle, sounds sensible and I expect the money is to work out in more detail than has been done so far ...
a) is it sensible
b) how would it be done
c) what would it cost

You'd imagine with such a simple scheme that it wouldn't take too long to work out b) and c). 

How would it be done?  Um, with a passing loop of just the right length, at a convenient place roughly half way along the line.  Only debate would be whether to have it a) at a station, with all the additional costs of a second platform, b) at a station with a Penryn style arrangement or c) in between stations, to keep build costs to a minimum.

How much would it cost?  Well two relatively low speed switches and a bit of track, a simple signalling solution, and any station work depending on the answer above.   Running costs should be relatively easy to work out too.

How much consultancy will that take?     
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2020, 07:21:14 pm »

I heard mention of Fleetwood whilst I was reading the paper during that broadcast. I can't see it mentioned anywhere since I started listening properly.

I did hear the minister refer to "post-Covid" spending to stimulate the economy. As not all of the schemes mentioned won't see the money, can I be the first to refer to the selection procedure as some sort of "post-Covid lottery"?
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