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Author Topic: Okehampton-Tavistock. Discussion on reopening and potential use as a diversionary route  (Read 231078 times)
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« Reply #615 on: December 13, 2020, 10:00:10 pm »

Looking at the proposal, it seems as if there is one new station proposed: at Tavistock. A stop at Lydford (for Lydford Gorge) with a passing loop would cut the single track section in half.

Yes, you're right.  Just one extra station - Tavistock.  It is such a rural area between Tavistock and Okehampton that personally I don't think you could justify a station at Lydford or anywhere else between the two.  Lydford Gorge would attract some custom but I can't see it being huge.  As for another loop, depends what you want the line to do and what the Government would be prepared to pay for.   

I think Okehampton Parkway, a mile or so east of Okehampton station, has a really good chance of success and suspect that will be something to factor in to these proposals.

If the expected full reopening of Exeter - Okehampton next year is a huge success (as we all hope - and yes, those involved, including me, know the issues and limitations), that will lay the groundwork for this and, if not this, then Bere Alston - Tavistock. 

Exciting times.

I share your hopes for Okehampton-Exeter, especially as any further reinstatement between Bere Alston and Tavistock, or beyond, is, to a certain extent, contingent on its success.
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« Reply #616 on: June 18, 2021, 08:08:15 am »

Devon County Council have submitted a bid for funding a business case, see this news story:
https://www.devonnewscentre.info/funding-bid-submitted-for-rail-reinstatement-business-case/

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« Reply #617 on: June 18, 2021, 02:37:28 pm »

Pity the photo is of the Calstock viaduct which is not on the Tavi-Okehampton route!
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« Reply #618 on: June 18, 2021, 10:51:11 pm »


The viaduct correctly pictured is Shillamill between Bere Alston and Tavistock.
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« Reply #619 on: June 18, 2021, 11:41:57 pm »

Devon County Council have submitted a bid for funding a business case, see this news story:
https://www.devonnewscentre.info/funding-bid-submitted-for-rail-reinstatement-business-case/

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It was once.
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« Reply #620 on: June 20, 2021, 11:35:38 am »

Devon County Council have submitted a bid for funding a business case, see this news story:
https://www.devonnewscentre.info/funding-bid-submitted-for-rail-reinstatement-business-case/

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From RailFuture Campaigners on Facebook - sharing a comment on that story which has more than an echo of truth in it.

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The backstory here is a corker. The previous plan made it all the way to the Planning Inspectorate's procedure for major projects and was quietly withdrawn while being considered, a very unusual step. The Devon County part of the intended funding was switched to roadbuilding. The plan seems to have been nixed by a combination of escalating costs (gold plating from Network Rail) and tarmac-sniffing from Devon County Council. Like Lazarus, the plan is back which is good. It has fallen down the snakes and now has to start again at the bottom of the ladders.


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« Reply #621 on: July 05, 2021, 07:20:27 am »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) spotlight local news for the south west of England on Monday 5th july,
 have a report that network rail have purchased okehampton station and surrounding area from the aggregate company.
Passenger services expected  to start in december 2021
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« Reply #622 on: July 05, 2021, 03:16:45 pm »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) spotlight local news for the south west of England on Monday 5th july,
 have a report that network rail have purchased okehampton station and surrounding area from the aggregate company.
Passenger services expected  to start in december 2021
The Okehampton station and branch reopening progress has its own more current thread here:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=24409.msg308191#msg308191
A recent post links to the Network Rail press release.
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« Reply #623 on: September 10, 2021, 02:12:16 pm »

Hi folks,

It's been a while since I posted on here, but having set up the Northern Route Working Group with Mat Taylor of Cornwall-based CNNCT Consultancy, I thought I'd say hello and try when I have time to answer any questions on the full reopening.

If you've read the public bid (https://northernrouteworkinggroup.wordpress.com/), a lot of questions will be answered. When we started this work, I think the expert team (which includes former Thameslink MD and Plymouth and Cornwall Railways manager Jim Collins, Jim Steer of Greengauge 21, Professor Jon Shaw of Plymouth Uni, and others offering informal input such as Richard Burningham) all believed diversions would be the main benefit.

What we're confident we can demonstrate with funding for a Strategic Outline Business Case is that there may very well be a wide-ranging (in number as well as geographically) set of social, economic and environmental benefits which make a worthwhile case in its own right, and of course, providing there's enough speed and capacity, that enables our friends at Network Rail to entertain blockades on the main line to undertake resilience work and bring completion forward from the 2070s as well as saving very significant sums.

We have the full support of ALL of Devon and Cornwall's MPs (Member of Parliament) (which we never quite had with the Save Our Sleeper campaign), and when we briefed the Rail Minister a while ago, he acknowledged the RYR (Restoring Your Railway) bid was much improved.

Crucially, Devon County Council is calling Bere Alston to Tavistock Phase 2 of full reopening.

With everyone's efforts in the NRWG team and the wider community supporting it, we must have a good chance of establishing the case for full reopening as a secondary (but damn quick over quite a lot of it) main line to radically improved transport connectivity in Mid, West and North Devon and Cornwall, open our region to more railfreight by virtue of the easier gradients compared to the main line, and keep the region connected to the wider network during disruption, whether planned or otherwise.

We're expecting an announcement later this year - please, please continue to bang the drum folks. If the vast railway operating, management, engineering and consultancy expertise in the team thought this work was misty-eyed wishful thinking they wouldn't have given their expensive time freely and for so long. The case looks good: we now need funding to put some numbers on the potential benefits and costs.

I'll do my best to answer any questions you have when I log in.

Andy Roden
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