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« on: May 08, 2020, 06:42:02 »

Today is "Victory in Europe" day the formal acceptance by the Allies of World War II of Nazi Germany's unconditional surrender of its armed forces on Tuesday, 8 May 1945, marking the end of World War II in Europe.

Much is written elsewhere on the Second World War.  On Railways, Wikipedia says

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During World War II the railway companies' managements joined together, effectively becoming one company. The railways were used more heavily than at any time in their history during this period.

The railway system suffered heavy damage in some areas due to German Luftwaffe bombing, especially in cities such as London and Coventry. 482 locomotives, 13,314 passenger and 16,132 freight vehicles were damaged.[2] However this damage was not as extensive as it was in many other European countries such as France and Germany. This unwittingly worked to the railways' disadvantage, because in other European countries the damage to their railway systems had been so bad that it gave them an opportunity to essentially re-build their railway systems from scratch, and dramatically modernise them.

During the war very little was invested in the railways and they became increasingly run-down. With only essential maintenance work being carried out during the war, the maintenance backlog increased even further. Rolling stock also began to deteriorate. After the war, it was clear that the rail network could not be maintained in the private sector. According to a calculation by the Central Statistical Office during the period 1938–1953 the railways suffered a net disinvestment of £440 million (around £11 billion in 2005 prices)

On the 75th anniversary of Victory in Europe day, let's remember the vital contribution of the rail industry to the war effort and its men and women, some of whom left to contribute to the war effort and never to return, others injured physically and mentally, and everyone effected in some way. Let us also, at the last multiple of 25 anniversary where some of these people who were brave young men and women at the time are still with us, shout a long and loud thank you to them for their contribution in a time of need, whatever our views of politics and wars.







Wartime images from https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/britains-railways-in-wartime/
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 10:00:35 »

Don't forget the railwaymen in occupied Europe who risked their own lives and refused to work for/assist the Nazis, and helped the Resistance sabotage their supply chain.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2020, 11:55:01 »

The images are:

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   2.   Folkestone Harbour

   3.   Middlesbrough
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2020, 19:14:59 »

Sure I didn't £50, but it would be interesting to see if the following actually exists:
https://www.pufferwillies-stm.co.uk/britains-railways-in-wartime-isbn-9781848024823-23751-p.asp
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2020, 20:46:07 »

The images are:

   1.   Tremains Halt for ROF Bridgend

   2.   Folkestone Harbour

   3.   Middlesbrough


Indeed.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 20:55:36 »

I've been quite impressed by the really quite large numbers of people in my neighbourhood who set up tables and chairs in their VE day decorated front drives, playing 1940s music, serving up tea, cakes and the odd bottle of fizz and chatting to their neighbours.... at a safe distance of course.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2020, 21:04:45 »

I know what Dad was doing, on - not the 8th, but the 7th when the news came out*.  He wrote to Mum, in a letter that started:
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It has just been announced that the German Foreign Secretary has broadcast that the German High Command has agreed to accept unconditional surrender, so now we are anxiously waiting for the Premier to make the official announcement. I only wish that I had been elsewhere when V-Day arrived. I can't truthfully say that I feel very elated here. However, it is a great relief to know the major war is over; it is just a matter of bad luck for all of us out here.

A lot of those in the 14th Army would have been more bitter about being the "forgotten army" (or one of them), as is well known.

The railways came in later, when he got to come home (Calcutta to Henley-in-Arden mostly by Dakota). That of course was his "Python"; genuinely 45 days leave, too. That journey, in itself, took 14 days ...

* The army in India celebrated VE-Day the next Monday - the 14th, I think - with a speech, a day off, and a free bottle of beer!
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2020, 00:03:03 »

I  noted above that Dad wasn't too impressed by VE day, where he was in Calcutta. On today's anniversary I can add that he wasn't a lot more impressed by VJ day. On the 15th August he wrote home (not as first item, that was a much-delayed letter):

"Well, the war seems to be over now and I believe you have had today and will have tomorrow as holidays. So far we don't know when we will celebrate the victory, but presumably they will give us one day off at least. The first indication of Jap surrender came as a surprise on Friday, but the negotiations have dragged on so long that it has lost its interest now."

Well, it was only six days since the Nagasaki bomb. In fact, he'd written about that about four days earlier:

"This has been a very momentous week indeed. First of all, two Japanese cities have been virtually wiped out by atomic bombs. And then Russia has, at long last, decided to enter the war at a very opportune moment. These great events were completely overshadowed on Thursday, by an announcement that very few men could expect to go home with less than 3 yrs 8 mths before November or December."

So, back to his two main preoccupations - mail (by then letters generally took only a week to reach him) and how soon he'd get home (Python).

They did get two days holiday - but that just upset the mail deliveries, and nothing was organised, so that led to more grumbles ...  At this stage Dad was part of No. 5 British Port Supervising Company, No. 6 Indian Docks Group, India Command, working on Calcutta docks. He did in fact talk later about his time there, but not his active service, saying he was sent back to hospital before they got very far. Much later, I found out this was a bit wide of the mark.

Dad was a signaller in the artillery, and went into Burma with the 2nd division while they advanced to relieve first Kohima, and then Imphal, before returning to India for rest. It was only when re-entering Burma on a second tour that he was treated in a field hospital for a leg ulcer and sent back as unfit for service to Deolali hospital (March 1945). There he was given a routine dose of penicillin - evidence of how rapidly this had gone from the first few doses from the American process intended for mass production (June 1942) to a rate of 646 billion units per year (June 1945).


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