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Author Topic: A seed is sown? BLM in peace in Melksham.  (Read 2370 times)
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2020, 10:07:09 am »

ALM or BLM

If (hypothetical) my wife is feeling really low and asks "Do you love me?" and I reply "I love everyone", I'm technically correct. It does include her and yet it could and probably would be taken as something of a put down.

I'm not sure about this analogy.

One's promise to one's wife (Cranmer's version) is:

"forsaking all other, keep thee only unto her..."

That's exclusive and preferential and doesn't map easily onto racial equality of esteem.

Perhaps a better one would be to assemble one's progeny and then consider what to say. If one said "I love you" to one, the others could rightly feel excluded and that favouritism existed. Only "I love you all" would satisfy.

This is true in race where the white (and ethnic born here) provincial working class feel left out of the good times experienced by the Southern middle class.

I compare the relative state of our railways in the West to those run down and wrecked in busy Lancashire and Yorkshire (arguably more important to the economy) and feel that they have a point.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2020, 12:09:52 pm »

I'm reminded of a famous line from towards the end of the film The Commitments.
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Tuesday had come down through Dundrum and Foster Avenue, brine-fresh from sea-travel, a corn-yellow sun-drench that called forth the bees at an incustomary hour to their bumbling.
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2020, 02:12:16 am »

Over here in France, there have been BLM-linked protests against police racism.

There have been operational consequences for the railways in our part of this world as well. Here is a translated article from Le Telegramme:

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Difficult arrest of the National Police in Saint-Brieuc station

This Tuesday, two men of North African origin were arrested in a TGV at the Saint-Brieuc station, without a ticket, without identity papers and without a mask. In a difficult national context, the National Police, however on the spot as soon as the train arrived, took an hour and a half before intervening.

A police intervention took place this Tuesday, June 9 in the TGV Paris-Brest at 2:21 p.m. at the station of Saint-Brieuc. Two men of North African origin, without identity papers, tickets or mask, are checked by an SNCF agent. The control goes wrong. One of the two men was said to have insulted the controller. He called the railway police for an intervention, as well as the National Police, before the train arrived at the Saint-Brieuc station. Except that it is not on site. According to the SNCF, a first patrol of the National Police arrives on the platform as soon as the train arrives.

The National Police arrested them, 1 h 30 after arriving at the station

Have Police Charges of Racism Affected Non-intervention? Yes, according to our sources close to the investigation. She did not act directly for fear, presumably, of a complicated stop and for fear of being filmed by the train passengers.

Still according to SNCF, a second police team nevertheless arrives 30 minutes after the first. But still no intervention; the two men are on the train with the controller and the rest of the passengers. It was not until around 3:45 p.m. that the railway police arrived, removed the two men from the TGV and handed them over to the National Police. The train can then leave for Brest.

A version of the arrest denied by the prosecution, as well as the National Police, saying that there has only been collaboration between the police, national and rail. A complaint has been filed by the SNCF. The two men were placed in police custody, one following the threats which were allegedly made, the other for a lack of transport ticket. They were released the same evening.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2020, 05:57:05 am »

I have ... started ... to write a comment, but heading off into complex, emotive and off-forum-topic areas. Considerable discomfort for me on many aspects at present, with Lee's post including aspects that are examples leading to thoughts of much wider issues.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2020, 09:36:54 am »

Meanwhile, according to the usually-reliable Ilkley Gazette, the Colston Hall is now 'Bristol Beacon'...
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2020, 10:18:13 am »

Meanwhile, according to the usually-reliable Ilkley Gazette, the Colston Hall is now 'Bristol Beacon'...

I'm not so sure. It could Be a con...
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2020, 11:16:15 am »

Boom tish!

There are numerous references to a poem written for the occasion by Vanessa Kisuule but not a copy of the poem or recording of her speech to be found, which is annoying.
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2020, 11:37:22 am »

Mmm. These people might need to re-engage their SEO consultants...

The renaming ceremony was livestreamed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJq1B1bh9X4

You can wind past the first 53 minutes without missing anything; the poem starts just after 1hr 11mins.
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2020, 01:32:42 pm »

Mmm. These people might need to re-engage their SEO consultants...

The renaming ceremony was livestreamed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJq1B1bh9X4

You can wind past the first 53 minutes without missing anything; the poem starts just after 1hr 11mins.

After the brief opening remarks by Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez? Wink

The scene, 50 years from now.
"Excuse me, Sir or Madam, I'm looking for the Bristol Beacon."
"Oooh, I got no ideal where that's to, me babber. Whas'n do there?"
"I'm going to a concert by the Bristol Multi-Cultural Non-Threatening Woke Orchestra to celebrate "Five Decades of Entertainment Without Barriers, or Interest"
"Ah, right, got'n - you wants the Cols'Nall my lover. Past Cabot Circus and Broadmead, along Merchant Street towards Whiteladies Road, turn far right when you get to the empty plinth. I was going to go myself, but me Family Allowance hasn't come."
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2020, 06:35:13 pm »

I'm surprised they didn't look towards the harbourside for inspiration in renamings and call it "We the Musical".
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2020, 07:35:22 pm »

You can wind past the first 53 minutes without missing anything; the poem starts just after 1hr 11mins.
Thanks. My son's studying graphic design etc and he's just been occupied analysing the video of the poem! My analysis is much shorter: needs subtitles. Most people have been captured very clearly but one is really quite muddy.
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2020, 11:53:33 pm »

My angle on BLM:
https://rail.cc/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/BLM-Zug2.jpg
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2020, 03:34:36 pm »

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That it is what the bio of the new Bristol Beacon Twitter profile says - a name that feels like a place of ?warmth, light and welcome?. It?s a bit like the name of a church, isn?t it? Or a community centre, or a school.

Quite what rookie taxi drivers and out-of-towners with fat satnav fingers will do when they rock up to a Van Morrison concert at the village hall in Peasedown remains to be seen. Perhaps it?s a business opportunity for them, and they can start putting on shows of their own.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-beacon-growing-me-im-4543204
I wouldn't be surprised if people call it either "Beacon Hall" or "The Beacon" rather than "Bristol Beacon".
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