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Author Topic: Pershore Station Developments  (Read 832 times)
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2020, 12:32:08 pm »

the evidence is that the more wealthy don't spend that much more when they get a tax cut, they simply save more, which does not benefit the economy.

I'm not disagreeing with the entire reasoning of your post, but I do wonder if this is right.  A significant problem of the UK economy has been the lack of savings and over-reliance on debt in the "want it now" society.  My economics lessons were often about the "savings ratio" and the idea that money not spent by individuals on "stuff" was "saved" and became available to businesses to use.  We see this in, for example, pensions.  Money saved by individuals for their future is invested and becomes a source of funds for enterprise.  Our economy is now distorted because the majority "service" type businesses don't need to absorb capital in the same way as happened in our industrial enterprise past, and way too many bankers and financial institutions are looking for the quick buck.  If anyone really wanted to reform the economy and investment, this is where they'd start, in my view

Apologies for straying so far from the new ticket machine at Pershore :-)
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2020, 01:12:10 pm »

Spoke to one of the boss's a few years ago,saying that Pewsey needed a ticket machine on the money side of the station,the upside.

Stonehouse should have a ticket machine on its money side of the station,the upside.

Don't worry about the two pound fifty fares to Gloucester and Cheltenham.

Its most likely to do with the fact that their is no accessable telephone and electricity lines on the upsides and they would cost money to install.

Lets not even go down the road of putting electricity and telephone cables underneath the railway line.

Just wondering on how may passengers have boarded up bound services at Pewsey and Stonehouse,

 wanting to pay and no one comes round to take their money.

With the train ending up going up an unbarrierd platform.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 03:40:14 pm »

The ticket machine has now got a new hat.


higher res: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pwh9tlGoO5fPJ7mnBRwSz3gm6kF0MtEk/view?usp=sharing

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2020, 03:52:27 pm »

In the case of Stonehouse and IIRC also Pewsey, the main entrance to the station is on the down side. The up platform just faces on to fields (Doverow Hill). I know there is a footpath from the up platform towards Stroud but I can't remember if it actually gives access to the station. Anyway, point is at least 99% of Stonehouse passengers will pass through or by the down platform even if catching an up train. In addition to the electricity supply problems!
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 04:19:55 pm »

The bus timetable in the back of the picture is at a convenient height for all the ants requiring public transport.  What on earth kind of idea is that?
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2020, 11:28:51 pm »

The ticket machine has now got a new hat.


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Isnít it odd, on logical and safety grounds, that you have to walk past the machine as you enter the platform, and then turn to face it with your back to the track?
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2020, 10:05:43 am »


Isnít it odd, on logical and safety grounds, that you have to walk past the machine as you enter the platform, and then turn to face it with your back to the track?

It seems to be a standard position. I can't think of any stations with a TVM on the platform that don't face that way.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2020, 10:20:39 am »

The concept of buying a ticket seems alien to quite a few Pershore passengers, so it might be a waste of electricity...until a gate line is put in at Foregate Street anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2020, 10:50:30 am »


Isnít it odd, on logical and safety grounds, that you have to walk past the machine as you enter the platform, and then turn to face it with your back to the track?

It seems to be a standard position. I can't think of any stations with a TVM on the platform that don't face that way.

From discussions at Melksham concerning equipment placement, and comment from elsewhere too ...

a) Consider the angle of the sun onto the screen.   Ticket sales at Melksham are predominantly in the morning (is that the case in most places, considering day returns?) so a screen facing north or west is preferable to one facing east or south.

b) Screen such that people face away from the platform edge to use it. Apparently safer (?)  / stops people walking ahead and off the platform once they have completed their purchase, and having things make people face away from the tracks lessens suicide risks.    Think that came up in "frequent posters" a couple of years ago.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2020, 05:01:14 pm »

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The concept of buying a ticket seems alien to quite a few Pershore passengers, so it might be a waste of electricity...until a gate line is put in at Foregate Street anyway.

Well I have to say that 90% of that is due to Great Western.

In the days of Thames Turbos on the line most guards went through the train selling tickets.

HST guards did not do as well but that is understandable with lots of short platforms to deal with and slam doors. But at least you could go and find the guard ether in the TGS or the Buffet.

With IET's the effort to sell tickets has become almost non-existant and the gauard is hidden beyond the kitchen. There is really no excuse for this most services are 5 car and fit the platforms, so the guard can close the doors from anywere on the train and give the right away. You cannot even ask the trolly operator to contact the guard as they are like hens teeth.

Nether have I encountered revenue protection on an IET.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2020, 06:01:33 pm »

I believe they were told not to put themselves at risk due to the antisocial behaviour of people boarding there (and at Evesham) leading to safety fears when they are on their own.  RPIís were recruited at Worcester a few years ago in an attempt to sort the problem out, but are not very good at all in my experience even when they are on a train.

The current situation means ticket checks, in general, have decreased dramatically for understandable reasons - though they have to be somewhere on the platform to dispatch - with longer platforms now, that can mean its harder to track them down.
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2020, 07:05:57 pm »


Isnít it odd, on logical and safety grounds, that you have to walk past the machine as you enter the platform, and then turn to face it with your back to the track?

It seems to be a standard position. I can't think of any stations with a TVM on the platform that don't face that way.

From discussions at Melksham concerning equipment placement, and comment from elsewhere too ...

a) Consider the angle of the sun onto the screen.   Ticket sales at Melksham are predominantly in the morning (is that the case in most places, considering day returns?) so a screen facing north or west is preferable to one facing east or south.

To be fair, this faces about north.

b) Screen such that people face away from the platform edge to use it. Apparently safer (?)  / stops people walking ahead and off the platform once they have completed their purchase, and having things make people face away from the tracks lessens suicide risks.    Think that came up in "frequent posters" a couple of years ago.

Interesting.
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2020, 07:53:28 pm »

a) Consider the angle of the sun onto the screen.   Ticket sales at Melksham are predominantly in the morning (is that the case in most places, considering day returns?) so a screen facing north or west is preferable to one facing east or south.

e-book readers such as Amazon Kindle are apparently good for reading in direct sunlight.
Perhaps in future colour e-ink / electronic paper screens could be used on TVM's.
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