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Author Topic: E-scooter trials - but rental only. What do members think?  (Read 38580 times)
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« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2022, 05:43:51 pm »

This video of a young lady pouring a cup of tea whilst riding a prototype escooter (and hands-off and one-legged) aims to demonstrate the vehicle's stability. Though Hanna Rosa cautions against some of her own antics, I wonder whether riders of less-frisky machines may be tempted to emulate her. And her "test-track" looks remarkably smooth compared with the reality of roads and pavements. How would the prototype cope with these, I wonder.
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« Reply #196 on: July 25, 2022, 07:05:17 pm »

It's a very wide tea cup. Looks she might have spilled her tea with a more normally shaped cup. I'm wondering if the stability is something purely mechanical (something gyroscopic?) or electronic, but whatever it is, a more stable scooter sounds like a good idea.
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« Reply #197 on: July 26, 2022, 05:53:05 am »

In Halfords in Chippenham yesterday ... eScooter for sale, with a label pointing out that it's only legal to use on private property with the property owner's permission.  As we were there to get legal wheeled transport to work (next door to the police station!), we left with lights to add to the bicycles  Grin
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« Reply #198 on: July 26, 2022, 08:58:21 pm »

Meanwhile, another person has died in London after the e-scooter he was riding was in collision with a car, according to the Evening Standard.

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n e-scooter rider died following a collision with a car in Tower Hamlets.

Officers rushed to Manilla Street at 5.40pm on Sunday following reports of a crash.

The rider, a 32-year-old man, was taken to an east London hospital.

Despite the best efforts of medical staff he was pronounced dead at 8.35pm.

His family have been informed.

The driver of the blue Kia failed to stop at the scene. The vehicle has now been located but enquiries are ongoing to track down the driver.

There is nothing to suggest that this wouldn't have happened had the unfortunate man been riding a bicycle rather than a scooter.

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« Reply #199 on: July 26, 2022, 09:49:14 pm »

This video of a young lady pouring a cup of tea whilst riding a prototype escooter (and hands-off and one-legged) aims to demonstrate the vehicle's stability. Though Hanna Rosa cautions against some of her own antics, I wonder whether riders of less-stable machines may be tempted to emulate her. And her "test-track" looks remarkably smooth compared with the reality of roads and pavements. How would the prototype cope with these, I wonder.
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« Reply #200 on: September 15, 2022, 01:13:14 pm »

Kent bans escooters

Misleading intro, later qualified.
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« Reply #201 on: September 15, 2022, 01:32:42 pm »

Students riding outside the usable zones & on pavements. Ran over pensioner, photos showing nasty injuries.
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« Reply #202 on: October 04, 2022, 03:28:25 pm »

An idiot several times over: https://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/national/23014980.e-scooter-rider-caught-motorway-told-police-following-sat-nav/
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« Reply #203 on: October 05, 2022, 09:54:11 am »

A wider view on e-scooters https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/02/we-may-tut-at-e-scooters-but-they-are-not-a-menace-we-should-fear
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« Reply #204 on: October 05, 2022, 11:58:43 am »

I have a friend who cycles around London and has moaned about being cut up by e-scooters in cycle lanes. Recently she bought her husband, in his mid-40s, one because he has a health condition that deters him from using public transport. On an early ride he came off quite nastily when he lost his balance when signalling a turn. (This is the main reason for my posting - an e-scooterist actually signalling  Roll Eyes?)  His wife was behind him on her bike and together they went to a nearby pharmacy for him to be patched up.
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« Reply #205 on: October 05, 2022, 05:24:45 pm »

Voi hire scooters have flashing indicators and yes, some riders at least do use them. But as with car drivers, some use them the wrong direction and more don't cancel them (I don't think they have self-cancelling, I'm not sure they even have a tell-tale for the rider).
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« Reply #206 on: October 26, 2022, 09:28:06 pm »

Will Paris ban shared e-scooters? The deputy mayor of Paris is not a fan

For those who ride them, they can prove incredibly useful; when the subway is packed or the buses are stuck in rush-hour traffic, they can be the last-minute option that miraculously gets them to work and to appointments on time.

But for many, the devices are a scourge that can clutter pavements, end up at the bottom of a river, or worse, cause deadly accidents.

This month, the deputy mayor of Paris, David Belliard called shared e-scooters “very cumbersome, accident-prone and anti-environmental” and his Green party even called for them to be banned from the city when the operators’ contract expires in February 2023.

Now these operators – Dott, TIER and Lime – are fighting back and joining forces to make the case that the 15,000 e-scooters they manage are not to blame for all the evils in the city.

The article continues showing steps taken to avoid bikes being dumped in the Seine and how to stop two riding at once.
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« Reply #207 on: October 27, 2022, 12:34:41 pm »

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Operators say that 96 per cent of the devices are now parked where they should be – and not getting in the way of pedestrians by lying haphazardly on pavements.

That’s mostly because geo-tracking software now prevents users from ending their ride on the app unless they are inside one of the city’s 2,500 dedicated parking areas.

In parallel, a special patrol tours Paris every day to reposition those that aren’t or have fallen over.
If this geofencing for parking actually works, can it be brought across the Channel please? And extended to cars too.
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« Reply #208 on: October 27, 2022, 12:39:34 pm »

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A Harris Interactive survey commissioned by Dott, Tier and Lime earlier this year found that if e-scooters were banned in Paris, 35 per cent of users said they would replace their trips with a personal car or would use a ride-hailing app like Uber.

Would these riders walk more? Not necessarily, say operators, noting that the average e-scooter ride in Paris is 3.2 km – which would take over an hour to cover on foot.

They present e-scooters more as a way to relieve public transport during the morning and evening rush hours.
The claim is often made that e-scooters take people off public transport and to an extent from walking rather than out of cars. These figures would seem to roughly support that. But they're also looking at it the other way; not "where did scooter riders come from?" but "now they are here, where would they go if we got rid of them?"
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« Reply #209 on: October 27, 2022, 04:17:34 pm »

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Operators say that 96 per cent of the devices are now parked where they should be – and not getting in the way of pedestrians by lying haphazardly on pavements.

That’s mostly because geo-tracking software now prevents users from ending their ride on the app unless they are inside one of the city’s 2,500 dedicated parking areas.

In parallel, a special patrol tours Paris every day to reposition those that aren’t or have fallen over.
If this geofencing for parking actually works, can it be brought across the Channel please? And extended to cars too.

My impression, here in Bath, is that parking e-scooters on pavements in a way that is hazardous to pedestrians has got a lot worse recently. I have come across many haphazardly left in the middle of narrow pavements, and sometimes also just around blind corners, which force many pedestrians into the road. 
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