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« on: August 28, 2020, 08:22:54 »

The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) are announcing today:
"Government accelerating pothole mapping project to support motorists and cyclists ahead of school return"

They will have to pull their finger out, Boris (or is it Williamson) said school return is Tuesday.

EDIT: Should have included link:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-accelerating-pothole-mapping-project-to-support-motorists-and-cyclists-ahead-of-school-return
Must try harder!
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2020, 08:41:13 »

The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) are announcing today:
"Government accelerating pothole mapping project to support motorists and cyclists ahead of school return"

They will have to pull their finger out, Boris (or is it Williamson) said school return is Tuesday.


I expect to see our streets swarming with highway inspectors this weekend all accurately plotting the location of potholes. Presumably in order to publish them on some government mapping website so that cyclists and motorists can plan their route swerving down the roads to avoid them. Job Done!
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 08:48:43 »

All well and good, but when out cycling I find 'sunken' drain & manhole covers more of an issue. These are frequently located on what could be described as the 'natural cycling line' (i.e. within about 0.5m of the kerb.)

In my 'home' area Devon County Council often now install new kerbs with integral drainage when undertaking road repairs which alleviates part of the problem.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2020, 09:54:32 »

All well and good, but when out cycling I find 'sunken' drain & manhole covers more of an issue. These are frequently located on what could be described as the 'natural cycling line' (i.e. within about 0.5m of the kerb.)

Not to mention the surface water that cunningly hides a pothole [as I discovered to my cost recently]!
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2020, 13:09:04 »

...what could be described as the 'natural cycling line' (i.e. within about 0.5m of the kerb.)

According to British Cycling - I can't find anything in the Highway Code about this (astonishingly) but YMMV (Your Method/Mileage May Vary) - there are two 'cycling lines':

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The primary road position is that of the general flow of traffic (ie in the centre of the lane). Contrary to what inexperienced cyclists may think, this is where they are often safer, as it is where they can most easily see and be seen. Trainees should be encouraged to think like a driver of a vehicle, and if in doubt position themselves where a vehicle would be.

Riding in the primary position is sometimes called taking the lane as the cyclist takes the position normally taken by the motorist, who is thus prevented from attempting to overtake.

When riding in the primary position, trainees should travel at a reasonable speed, as part of the traffic flow. If, however, traffic is building up behind them and the road ahead is clear, they may wish to move to the secondary position to avoid obstructing other road-users unnecessarily.

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The secondary road position (roughly 1 metre to the left of the traffic flow and not less than 0.5 metres to the edge of the road) may be appropriate if the road is wide enough to allow safe overtaking, and the rider’s safety is not reduced by riding in this position.

The correct choice of road position can be used to help riders affect driver behaviour, in order to help avoid collisions with other road users, or to avoid them having to brake suddenly. The secondary position is a useful position on most minor roads where there are few parked vehicles on the carriageway, and is particularly appealing to beginners as it leaves them closer to the perceived safety of the pavement.

My emphasis. No-one should expect anyone to ride in the gutter.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2020, 15:17:24 »

The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) are announcing today:
"Government accelerating pothole mapping project to support motorists and cyclists ahead of school return"

They will have to pull their finger out, Boris (or is it Williamson) said school return is Tuesday.
In some parts of England schools the school term started at the beginning of this week, although typically with inset days they didn't really open until Wednesday.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2020, 17:09:23 »

"Government accelerating pothole mapping project to support motorists and cyclists ahead of school return"

You'll note they didn't mention which school return though. Post-Easter 2021? Summer holidays 2022? Just in time for the next General Election, whenever that may be?
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 19:04:50 »

There is a website and an app which allows you to report a pothole by either filling in a form or taking a photo and using your phone's location services (GPS, presumably) to alert the relevant HA (Highways Agency) of the site, size, depth.

https://www.fillthathole.org.uk

Fix my street is another one. It also allows you report faulty street lights, traffic lights out of order and similar faults.

https://www.fixmystreet.com
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2020, 19:53:36 »

Ok, so now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall, what are the govt planning to do with this info? They surely aren't going to ask local councils to fill them are they?
My guess is they will launch a public sponsor/adopt a pot hole programme. Grin   
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