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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2020, 13:29:57 »

Can't read that as it's behind a paywall.

https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/high-speed/parliamentary-committee-issues-scathing-report-on-management-of-hs2/
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2020, 13:38:14 »

Thanks, and fair enough - I assumed it was something new, not from back in May when you quoted the same report on the HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) thread.
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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2020, 13:50:40 »

Thanks, and fair enough - I assumed it was something new, not from back in May when you quoted the same report on the HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) thread.

No problem, happy to help.
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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2020, 14:54:55 »

Looking back at that previous article you quoted in May, it was actually a much better one as there was right of reply from the Transport Secretary explaining how they would ensure information wasn't withheld going forward.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52695156

We will see over time whether that is the case.
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2020, 08:34:35 »

https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1301094908149800960?s=20

Some of the scenes from the Extinction Rebellion protests in London yesterday.

You should be able to view them even if you don't subscribe to Twitter.

(I should add that I was not one of those doing their best to waste Police time!)  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2020, 09:11:55 »

https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1301094908149800960?s=20

Some of the scenes from the Extinction Rebellion protests in London yesterday.

You should be able to view them even if you don't subscribe to Twitter.

(I should add that I was not one of those doing their best to waste Police time!)  Smiley

I was expecting a keynote speech followed by a full horizontal from TG at least!
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2020, 09:30:30 »

https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1301094908149800960?s=20

Some of the scenes from the Extinction Rebellion protests in London yesterday.

You should be able to view them even if you don't subscribe to Twitter.

(I should add that I was not one of those doing their best to waste Police time!)  Smiley

I was expecting a keynote speech followed by a full horizontal from TG at least!



Sorry to disappoint........I can manage a full horizontal if I drink enough Tribute, but in a gymnastic context it's virtually impossible with the state of my knees...........in either scenario, I'd need a considerable amount of assistance to rise again, quite possibly utilising a block and tackle! 
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2020, 12:31:00 »

Sorry to disappoint........I can manage a full horizontal if I drink enough Tribute, but in a gymnastic context it's virtually impossible with the state of my knees...........in either scenario, I'd need a considerable amount of assistance to rise again, quite possibly utilising a block and tackle! 

I also. I avoid lying down except in or on a soundly constructed bed.

3 local climate change activists were observed to be lying down in a public place. Seemed a rather low profile place for a protest. I later heard that one had slid from his horse, due perhaps to taking of drink. The horse lost interest after a bit and wandered home. Two friends joined him to "show solidarity" All were sleeping until it rained.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2020, 10:29:47 »

Whatever anyone's views are on any of the newspapers concerned, this is totally unacceptable behaviour.

The irony of an avowedly anti fascist organisation attempting to restrict access to the free Press does take some beating!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/04/extinction-rebellion-block-roads-to-murdoch-paper-print-sites?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR06mhnkyRcMQIvz4eJoS2WrOdKWpiW9ragXJi5L2JQAqjQSxdiC9na4V5E
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2020, 11:52:28 »

Whatever anyone's views are on any of the newspapers concerned, this is totally unacceptable behaviour.

The irony of an avowedly anti fascist organisation attempting to restrict access to the free Press does take some beating!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/04/extinction-rebellion-block-roads-to-murdoch-paper-print-sites?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR06mhnkyRcMQIvz4eJoS2WrOdKWpiW9ragXJi5L2JQAqjQSxdiC9na4V5E
And on the day The Sun publishes an article by Sir David Attenborough on the very thing they are supposed to be protesting about...Climate Change! Talk about own goal. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2020, 12:43:20 »

Whatever anyone's views are on any of the newspapers concerned, this is totally unacceptable behaviour.

The irony of an avowedly anti fascist organisation attempting to restrict access to the free Press does take some beating!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/04/extinction-rebellion-block-roads-to-murdoch-paper-print-sites?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR06mhnkyRcMQIvz4eJoS2WrOdKWpiW9ragXJi5L2JQAqjQSxdiC9na4V5E

I agree, and this sort of behaviour reinforces my view that significant elements within XR (Crossrail) are simply the latest reincarnation of various hard left groups, who support environmental protests only as a "means to an end" of a Marxist state.
"smash the system"
"stop the city"
Such groups hate Murdoch for modernising the newspaper industry and reducing trade union control.
A free press is not a feature of the communist system.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2020, 13:11:54 »

Whatever anyone's views are on any of the newspapers concerned, this is totally unacceptable behaviour.

The irony of an avowedly anti fascist organisation attempting to restrict access to the free Press does take some beating!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/04/extinction-rebellion-block-roads-to-murdoch-paper-print-sites?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR06mhnkyRcMQIvz4eJoS2WrOdKWpiW9ragXJi5L2JQAqjQSxdiC9na4V5E
And on the day The Sun publishes an article by Sir David Attenborough on the very thing they are supposed to be protesting about...Climate Change! Talk about own goal. Roll Eyes


Yes, I don't agree with it, but bear in mind that this print work also prints the Times, the Sunday Times, the Daily Telegraph and Sunday Telegraph, the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday, and the London Evening Standard.

Some of those titles have taken a Climate Change denial stance. 

I am a bit skeptical on how free our press is. Freedom should be freedom to print the truth. Some of it seems to be freedom of very rich people to print whatever they like to promote their own personal interests.

When election expenditure by political parties is tightly controlled but a newspaper can openly campaign on behalf of one party during an election. Expenditure that would not have been allowed if the party had had to but it as advertising. (The Sun has claimed to win elections for more than one party at different times). 

Also remember there was a Journalist who was a Brussels correspondent for one paper who made up stories about what the European Commission was about to ban which still seemed to be accepted as facts by many people. He seemed to get away with it at the time. Wonder what he is doing now?
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2020, 14:03:53 »

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For my information Ellendune - which ones?
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« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2020, 14:29:48 »

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Some of those titles have taken a Climate Change denial stance

For my information Ellendune - which ones?

Good ask. And while I am at it I better quote a source for my answer so how about this?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/25/why-are-some-british-newspapers-still-denying-climate-change

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While the overall coverage in the Guardian, Independent and Mirror titles tends to reflect the mainstream scientific, economic and political consensus about climate change, the Mail, Express, Times, Sun and Telegraph titles all continue to use their opinion columns and leaders to try to cast doubt on the risks.

The full article gives a more nuanced answer.
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« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2020, 14:49:14 »

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Some of those titles have taken a Climate Change denial stance

For my information Ellendune - which ones?

Good ask. And while I am at it I better quote a source for my answer so how about this?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/25/why-are-some-british-newspapers-still-denying-climate-change

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While the overall coverage in the Guardian, Independent and Mirror titles tends to reflect the mainstream scientific, economic and political consensus about climate change, the Mail, Express, Times, Sun and Telegraph titles all continue to use their opinion columns and leaders to try to cast doubt on the risks.

The full article gives a more nuanced answer.

The article is almost 5 years old, and given that the Sun, cited within it as an "offender" was going to be leading today with Attenborough's article,  it hasn't aged particularly well.
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