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« on: September 13, 2020, 15:08:11 »

From the frontpage at http://www.travelinesoutheast.org.uk/
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This website is closing
For over 20 years, this website has provided impartial travel advice using timetables compiled by all of the local transport authorities (County Councils and Unitary Authorities) in the region. The Bus Services Act of 2017 means that, by the end of 2020. it will be the bus operators' responsibility to make available timetable, fares and real-time location data. The Government expects "the market" (bus operators and internet information providers) to use the latest technological developments to give travel planning information to the travelling public.

Our website is rather dated now, and without funds to develop it with new facilities, and without enhancements to use the latest software developments, the decision has been taken to close it down. The closure was initially due to take place a year ago, and then at the end of March 2020. The rapidly changing data resulting from the Covid-19 outbreak provided a further extension.

This website's last day of operation will be Wednesday 23rd September, when our software contracts and hosting arrangements come to an end. Once our journey planner is taken off-line, this page will offer a number of alternative journey planning websites.

We will continue to provide data to the Traveline National Dataset as the transition to operators' data takes place.

Thank you to the many thousands of you that have found our website useful over the last 20 year


This is a shame as I have used it a lot. It has been very useful because I can plan journeys involving train, bus, tube etc nationwide. The main selling point for me was that I could specify how long I was able to walk between points. By specifying a walk of up to 60 minutes I could get to a different station or bus stop and arrive at my destination earlier than Google Maps suggestions which only allows a maximum walking time of 30 minutes.

Planning an early morning journey from home to Bournemouth last year, Traveline suggested I walk 35 minutes to the TfL» (Transport for London - about) bus stop, bus to Surbiton, train to Woking, train to Bournemouth.  Google suggested leaving later so I could catch  the first train of the day from Bookham to Guildford, train to Woking, train to Bournemouth. By following traveline I got to Bournemouth about an hour earlier than had i followed Google maps suggestion.

In the last year it has not fared too well. It struggled with accurate data when the SWR» (South Western Railway - about) strikes were on and similarly when the train services were cut at the start of the Covid lockdown by suggesting direct trains that I knew were not running or were partly replacement bus services.

I will now need to find a replacement that allows 60 minutes walking.

RIP traveline SE.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2020, 06:59:41 »

Likewise I am not convinced the "commercial" providers are up to the same standard.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2020, 08:34:19 »

From the frontpage at http://www.travelinesoutheast.org.uk/
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I will now need to find a replacement that allows 60 minutes walking.

https://www.traveline.info ... a much more modern look, and you can set walking speed and maximum walking distance and in combination they may give you what you want.  A thought / caution, though ... are the two Traveline sites based on the same data set and with the same team ... so is there a question over the future of the .info site too?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2020, 00:10:03 »


https://www.traveline.info ... a much more modern look, and you can set walking speed and maximum walking distance and in combination they may give you what you want.  A thought / caution, though ... are the two Traveline sites based on the same data set and with the same team ... so is there a question over the future of the .info site too?

I'm not sure. I did once compare traveline.info with the SE and SW versions and received different route suggestions from each.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2021, 20:18:53 »

And now Traveline West Midlands is closing. It was a clone of the South East version.

http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/
 
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As our web site is now rather dated and with insufficient funds to develop it, we have with great reluctance decided that as of Thursday September 30th 2021 this web site will close.

The Bus Services Act of 2017 means that it is now the responsibility of bus operators to make available timetable, fares and real-time location data, and the Government expects bus operators and internet information providers to use the latest technological developments to provide travel planning information to the travelling public. We will continue to provide data to the Traveline National Dataset as the transition to operators' own data takes place.

Thank you to the many thousands of you who have found our website useful over the last 20 years.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2021, 10:40:19 »

I would like to think that the availability of open data will encourage small bus-planning sites.

Certainly the growth of small rail sites has been a success story over the past few years: there's a lot of sites on the "hobbyist to cottage industry" spectrum, things like RealTimeTrains, OpenTrainTimes, Raildar, BRTimes/BRFares, etc. etc.

In theory you could set up something Traveline-like by taking the open data and feeding it into OpenTripPlanner. OTP is production-level software - it was initially developed by the TriMet transport authority in Portland, Oregon, and is now used all over the world.
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