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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2021, 19:13:14 »

Eagle-eyed Carol Durrant of FoSBR» (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways - site) spotted this in the planning pack:

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As a result of the additional trains to service the Proposed Development, the predicted increase in noise is approximately 1 dB during the day and night periods. This increase in sound is predominantly due to the full power operation of the diesel locomotive which forms part of the Class 255 train as it pulls away from the station. This change in level is classified as ‘negligible’ under the criteria used on the most current rail projects in the UK (United Kingdom).

They wouldn't, presumably, be planning to use 'Castles' out to Henbury. Maybe they're thinking of Bristol-Gloucester trains?
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2021, 20:00:52 »

Class 255 trains

What are these?
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2021, 20:04:01 »

Class 255 trains

What are these?

"Castles" to you.  Grin

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2021, 22:45:50 »

I always wondered why Ashley Down was two words but Totterdown only one. But given the acronym that would result if it were called Ashleydown, perhaps it's for the better.

Totter Down would be the better name, especially for anyone trying to walk down any of the roads that descend the ridiculously steep hill between Wells Road and Bath Road.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2021, 23:33:11 »

Happened past the site of the future Ashley Down station this afternoon.  It looked as if there has been some vegetation clearance recently as nothing much seems to have grown back so far.  Perhaps more interestingly, there also seem to be a couple of small blue items protruding from the cleared ground set in fairly new looking concrete as in the picture that I took below.
The closer blue object is a tubular shape while the rather more distant one is rectangular.  I've no idea what, if anything, this might have to do with the new station but I thought it might interesting enough to post here.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2021, 17:46:25 »

Looks to me like an inspection cover that gives access to a small well or borehole. Probably too small to be a useful water source, more likely to be for survey purposes in order that the height of the water table table may be ascertained.

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2021, 20:38:04 »

Looks to me like an inspection cover that gives access to a small well or borehole. Probably too small to be a useful water source, more likely to be for survey purposes in order that the height of the water table table may be ascertained.



Thanks broadgage, that would make sense.  I recall that less than exhaustive ground water surveys were one of the reasons that Bristol Portway P&R (Park and Ride) station was (still is) delayed so hopefully there won't be a repeat here.
Perhaps the more distant protrusion has a related function but it does look clearly different close up being rectangular in shape.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2021, 23:04:50 »

Looks to me like an inspection cover that gives access to a small well or borehole. Probably too small to be a useful water source, more likely to be for survey purposes in order that the height of the water table table may be ascertained.

Well spotted - the two shown do look very like this:


These are from a company called MGS, are described as well covers, and come in several sizes from 100 cm up. No doubt there are other makers, though perhaps not using that fetching shade of blue. Groundwater monitoring boreholes would be a typical use. The round ones are steel and the square ones aluminium alloy - why you'd want one of each isn't obvious, though it might be as simple as to identify two different kinds of borehole.
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2021, 19:48:20 »

Many thanks for that stuving, those illustrations rather confirm it.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2022, 16:05:56 »

Some good news I think.  I've just received the notification below as an email attachment concerning approval for the reopening of Ashley Down Station by Bristol City Council.

Dear Sir/Madam
Notification of Decision
Application No. 21/03523/RA
Site Address: Former Ashley Down Railway Station Station Lane Bristol BS7 9LB
Following your comments about the above application, I can inform you that the proposal
was considered under delegated powers on 7 July 2022, and the decision was as follows:
Prior Approval GIVEN.
A copy of the officer report and the decision notice with any conditions attached, can now be
viewed from our website.
If you require any further information about this application, please contact us.
Yours faithfully
Development Management
Bristol City Council
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2022, 08:20:20 »

Some good news I think.  I've just received the notification below as an email attachment concerning approval for the reopening of Ashley Down Station by Bristol City Council.


Hopefully, this link will take you to the planning application start page:
https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=QVERYKDNMMN00

The accompanying documents show that the station will use the western two lines, the slow or relief as you like. The buildings will be of the enhanced bus shelter type. It will give Station Road a station, something which I think will be unique among the Station Roads in the area. There will be a rather imposing footbridge with lifts, something that I would anticipate being the most contentious part of the structure with nearby residents, although parking will also be mentioned. The first works will see the removal of the remaining bits of the former platforms. Station Road will be the access for works vehicles that can't come and go by rail.

The renders show the usual idyllic scenes of empty spaces, trees, occasional bicycle, with happy people looking at phones rather than the sunlit uplands. They are missing the mixed race couples with 2.4 children and representations of various genders beloved by Bristol City Council, but they obviously did the trick. There are no public comments.

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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2022, 14:07:15 »

It will give Station Road a station, something which I think will be unique among the Station Roads in the area.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2022, 16:02:42 »

...It will give Station Road a station, something which I think will be unique among the Station Roads in the area...

Now you wouldn't expect me to let that go unchallenged, would you?

By my reckoning Bristol has 15 Station Roads.

The nearest to Station Road, Ashley Down is in Montpelier, 1.5 km to the south-west. That leads to Montpelier Station, which is very much open.

Station Road, Filton is just under 3.5 km to the north. This was named after Filton (Junction) Station, which is no more, but it leads reasonably well to the station at Filton Abbey Wood which replaced it.

Fishponds, 3.5 km to the east, has a Station Road along with a New Station Road and a New Station Way. The latter opened long after the station closed. Given that it occupies the site of Fishponds Station, it would perhaps would have been better named 'Old Station Way'!

Patchway Station, 4 km north of Ashley Down and open, is served by another Station Road.

Henbury has a Station Road, about 5 km from Ashley Down. There is a plan to open a new station near here, but it will be over 400m away from Station Road. Arguably this could confuse some!

5 km to the south is Station Road, Brislington. No station here!

The closed station at Staple Hill, 5.5 km to the east, was served by a Station Road

Shirehampton's Station Road is just over 7 km west of Ashley Down, and leads to another open station.

Station Road at Pill, a little further to the west and over the River Avon, will hopefully soon lead to a station.

A similar distance in the opposite direction, Warmley's Station Road leads to quite a pleasant station, but it's rather unlikely to see another train.

Keynsham's Station Road, 9 km to the south-east, leads to a busy main line station.

Don't get me started about Station Road, Portishead - 13 km to the west. Suffice to say that a new Portishead Station will be some way away from here.

Further afield, Coalpit Heath and Winterbourne also have Station Roads. There are no current plans to reopen either station, though FoSBR» (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways - site) would like to see Coalpit Heath reopened.

So 5 of Bristol's Station Roads currently lead to stations still served by trains; 2 more will be served once MetroWest is complete. In addition, 2 Station Roads will not serve a station because it has been moved from its original location.





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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2022, 16:14:36 »

...It will give Station Road a station, something which I think will be unique among the Station Roads in the area...

Now you wouldn't expect me to let that go unchallenged, would you?

By my reckoning Bristol has 15 Station Roads.

The nearest to Station Road, Ashley Down is in Montpelier, 1.5 km to the south-west. That leads to Montpelier Station, which is very much open.

Station Road, Filton is just under 3.5 km to the north. This was named after Filton (Junction) Station, which is no more, but it leads reasonably well to the station at Filton Abbey Wood which replaced it.

Fishponds, 3.5 km to the east, has a Station Road along with a New Station Road and a New Station Way. The latter opened long after the station closed. Given that it occupies the site of Fishponds Station, it would perhaps would have been better named 'Old Station Way'!

Patchway Station, 4 km north of Ashley Down and open, is served by another Station Road.

Henbury has a Station Road, about 5 km from Ashley Down. There is a plan to open a new station near here, but it will be over 400m away from Station Road. Arguably this could confuse some!

5 km to the south is Station Road, Brislington. No station here!

The closed station at Staple Hill, 5.5 km to the east, was served by a Station Road

Shirehampton's Station Road is just over 7 km west of Ashley Down, and leads to another open station.

Station Road at Pill, a little further to the west and over the River Avon, will hopefully soon lead to a station.

A similar distance in the opposite direction, Warmley's Station Road leads to quite a pleasant station, but it's rather unlikely to see another train.

Keynsham's Station Road, 9 km to the south-east, leads to a busy main line station.

Don't get me started about Station Road, Portishead - 13 km to the west. Suffice to say that a new Portishead Station will be some way away from here.

Further afield, Coalpit Heath and Winterbourne also have Station Roads. There are no current plans to reopen either station, though FoSBR» (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways - site) would like to see Coalpit Heath reopened.

So 5 of Bristol's Station Roads currently lead to stations still served by trains; 2 more will be served once MetroWest is complete. In addition, 2 Station Roads will not serve a station because it has been moved from its original location.



So apart from those five Station Roads, it will be unique.  Grin

I'm not going to try to weasel out of my mistake by arguing that two are in S Glos, one in whatever distant land Keynsham forms part of, and leading to an old station nowhere near an open platform shouldn't count, because I have been caught with my pants down, and am not Boris Johnson. I am indebted to my friend for the correction.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2022, 17:19:40 »

On this occasion I chose to define 'Bristol' as the area covered by the Geographer's A-Z Map Company's 'Premier Map of Bristol', 2015 edition.

Why, you might ask, would an old computer bod like Redny McSquirrel resort to such an analogue technique? Well I didn't find Google Maps at all helpful in this instance - rather than give me a list of Station Roads, it just highlighted the one it thought I might find most interesting. Odd coves, these algorithms... The A-Z, on the other hand, has an index which lists every street. Just the job... except that, oddly, it indicated a Station Road in St Annes Park. A beer to anyone who can tell locate it for me! I concluded that it was a Trap Street.

I suppose I could have called Endex quite early on, given that the nearest Station Road leads to an active station... but it was fun checking out the others.
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