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« on: April 11, 2008, 13:04:23 »

Presumably Cross Country will need to use an SDO (Selective Door Opening) System on the HSTs (High Speed Train) which they plan to introduce shortly.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 15:53:18 »

Presumably Cross Country will need to use an SDO (Selective Door Opening) System on the HSTs (High Speed Train) which they plan to introduce shortly.
No as all stations will have Grandfather Rights, as HSTs have been used before.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 19:58:18 »

I Know the MML» (Midland Main Line. - about) Set FGW (First Great Western) had which has passed to Cross Country was fitted with SDO (Selective Door Opening) Panels, seems odd that FGW HST (High Speed Train) sets now no longer have Grandfather rights Whilst CC ones will retain them , presumably they will revert to using old type door panels
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 20:02:57 »

FGW (First Great Western) sets don't have grandfather rights simply as SDO (Selective Door Opening) is now fitted in them. If they still retain original door locking then they will retain grandfather rights.

I believe LA79 will keep the SDO as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 20:07:55 »

I believe LA79 will keep the SDO (Selective Door Opening) as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 20:11:15 »

Surely if they fit SDO (Selective Door Opening) to all of there sets they will probably be forced to use it at Short platforms
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 20:17:14 »

Surely if they fit SDO (Selective Door Opening) to all of there sets they will probably be forced to use it at Shotr platforms
Yeh, but they will learn from FGW (First Great Western)'s mistakes I bet.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 20:19:09 »

I believe LA79 will keep the SDO (Selective Door Opening) as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.
I suspect it is more likely for a derogation to be issued to that set until it is sent for refurbishment by XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), which may result in SDO being removed.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 20:24:01 »

I believe LA79 will keep the SDO (Selective Door Opening) as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.
I suspect it is more likely for a derogation to be issued to that set until it is sent for refurbishment by XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), which may result in SDO being removed.
I don't know if H&S (Health and Safety) would allow that though, a less safer train after it could have been safer.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 20:50:17 »

How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO (Selective Door Opening) came in)....

It doesn't help people if there is a crash does it?
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 21:26:24 »

How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO (Selective Door Opening) came in)....
Which appears to be the reason behind it. IMO (in my opinion) it doesn't make it safer at all.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 21:27:27 »

How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO (Selective Door Opening) came in)....

It doesn't help people if there is a crash does it?

Correct.

It is an insult to the Great British people (excluding the prats).
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