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Author Topic: Scotrail bans alcohol at all stations and trains  (Read 1397 times)
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2020, 09:35:04 pm »

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2020, 06:57:37 pm »

I was twice refused admission to an underground station for carrying sealed containers of alcohol as part of my shopping. On one ocaision, cans of drink could be seen through a partialy transparent shopping bag.

Does Port come in cans now?  Cheesy

Probably, somewhere, though I have never seen such a product. It was beer in my shopping when I was refused admission to the undeground.
Worth remarking upon IMHO as an example of how the police tend to over interprate regulations.

A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2020, 08:43:11 am »

I can see the merit of banning alcohol on certain services with a history of drunken trouble.

However banning all alcohol on all trains sends out a very negative message. I also perceive some risk of mission creep or over interpretation of the rules. For example by refusing passage to those carrying sealed containers of drink as part of their shopping, or for a gift. This has already happened on LUL services.

Can you point me to where it says I can't carry a sealed bottle of wine home amongst my other shopping on the Underground, or to an example of where someone has been stopped from doing so?

No regulation prohibits the carrying of a sealed bottle of wine on the London Underground.
I was twice refused admission to an underground station for carrying sealed containers of alcohol as part of my shopping. On one ocaision, cans of drink could be seen through a partialy transparent shopping bag.
On another journey, my bag was searched "as part of routine crime prevention" and a bottle of spirits found. The BTP officer said "You should know that drink is not permitted on LUL" He pointed to a notice that confirmed the prohibition on drinking and the carrying of open containers of alcohol.
I pointed out that I was not drinking, not carrying an open container, but was told "makes no difference because you could open it"  And that the rule is not for debate or argument, NO DRINK.

Others have reported similar experiences.

I wrote to complain and received a standard reply about the powers of the BTP to which everyone is subject.

I suspect they recognised you Broadgage and the notoriety of your rock n roll lifestyle preceeded you, hence the BTP acting with extreme caution!  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2020, 09:24:17 am »

.....Worth remarking upon IMHO as an example of how the police tend to over interprate regulations. exceed their authority.

Unfortunately, I believe, the reaction to COVID-19 has generated a number of other examples of this, from both the police and other 'authorities'.
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