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« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2021, 09:17:05 pm »


There are some buying opportunities also:

https://rmslocotec.com/for-sale

I fancy the 4BIG buffet but would Mrs OTC?

OTC

All four pages of rolling stock in one URL ... and archived for posterity ...
I am getting lost in the complexity of organisations ... but lots of rolling stock including two thumpers up for sale.

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/mirror/dfsall.pdf
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2021, 11:09:20 am »

Interesting Unadvertised Ordinary Passenger
Crew training perhaps


Class 2, so should be revenue earning services.

These are what Train Planners call 'Q paths'. They may not be required but they're there in system and can be used at short-notice.

For example, there is an unadvertised Q path for the Night Riviera to go via the Southern route on Sundays. It is hardly ever needed but its there for when it is. The same principle applies for these Okehampton trains in that they're there and ready for when services can start.

These train paths seemed to have dropped to 2 trains in the morning and 2 in the evening. This could be a good sign for a May start with a covid service and the 8 trains following lockdown.
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« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2021, 03:19:21 pm »


Go back to sleep and wake up when the trains appear in Journey Planning Systems and not what is in Real Time Trains (RTT» (Real Time Trains - website)) where editing is taking place   




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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2021, 07:36:40 pm »

This Budget will also unlock more than £40 million of funding to reinstate passenger services on the OkehamptonExeter line, subject to final approval of costs and contracts. These investments will provide good quality transport links between communities, and improve employment opportunities across these areas."
 
Page 61   https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/966161/Budget_2021_Web_accessible.pdf

All good news.

Presumably, this includes all the money so far spent and/or earmarked for restoration of services.

These train paths seemed to have dropped to 2 trains in the morning and 2 in the evening. This could be a good sign for a May start with a covid service and the 8 trains following lockdown.

This is really going to annoy certain people in Another Place, who took to social media to complain bitterly that the original listing was woefully inadequate. I did point out that it is traditional to wait until services actually begin before fulminating, but to little avail.
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« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2021, 07:53:05 pm »

A heads up for anyone keen to hear Network Rail's presentation of what should happen in the run-up to opening.

The website for https://www.okehampton.gov.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3P_iHi2ncfgSXWY-DDQxuZcFeaJ7dVVBxJGCOpJiOiCVMLtm_CfowL7FE]Okehampton Town Council[/url] lists the forthcoming Annual Town Assembly, to be held virtually on Monday 22 March 2021 at 7pm. The notice says:

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Annual Town Assembly - Monday 22nd March 2021, 7pm
This is a public meeting that is open to all Okehampton Town residents. 

Representatives from Network Rail will be in attendance and making a presentation about the reopening of the passenger rail service from Okehampton to Exeter.

The Agenda for the meeting which is being held virtually because of the ongoing pandemic restrictions, and details of how you can attend will be available from here or by contacting the office on 01837 53179 or townclerk@okehampton.gov.uk.

If any Okehampton Town resident reading this would like to watch and report back to us, I am sure we will all be very interested. You never know - they may even allow guests.
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« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2021, 10:40:54 pm »

Interesting Unadvertised Ordinary Passenger
Crew training perhaps


Class 2, so should be revenue earning services.

These are what Train Planners call 'Q paths'. They may not be required but they're there in system and can be used at short-notice.

For example, there is an unadvertised Q path for the Night Riviera to go via the Southern route on Sundays. It is hardly ever needed but its there for when it is. The same principle applies for these Okehampton trains in that they're there and ready for when services can start.

These train paths seemed to have dropped to 2 trains in the morning and 2 in the evening. This could be a good sign for a May start with a covid service and the 8 trains following lockdown.

There is no chance whatsoever of a May start.  As I said in a previous post, I don't see services starting in anything we would call "Summer" but I certainly see them starting in 2021.  Ignore anything that might appear in Real Time Trains until we have a definite start date.
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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2021, 10:46:22 pm »

A heads up for anyone keen to hear Network Rail's presentation of what should happen in the run-up to opening.

The website for https://www.okehampton.gov.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3P_iHi2ncfgSXWY-DDQxuZcFeaJ7dVVBxJGCOpJiOiCVMLtm_CfowL7FE]Okehampton Town Council[/url] lists the forthcoming Annual Town Assembly, to be held virtually on Monday 22 March 2021 at 7pm. The notice says:

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Annual Town Assembly - Monday 22nd March 2021, 7pm
This is a public meeting that is open to all Okehampton Town residents. 

Representatives from Network Rail will be in attendance and making a presentation about the reopening of the passenger rail service from Okehampton to Exeter.

The Agenda for the meeting which is being held virtually because of the ongoing pandemic restrictions, and details of how you can attend will be available from here or by contacting the office on 01837 53179 or townclerk@okehampton.gov.uk.

If any Okehampton Town resident reading this would like to watch and report back to us, I am sure we will all be very interested. You never know - they may even allow guests.

It's a public meeting so I see no problem with anyone, anywhere attending though, of course, only Okehampton residents will be allowed to ask questions.   Here's the agenda with Zoom link https://www.okehampton.gov.uk/data/uploads/2032_74043058.pdf


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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2021, 11:07:46 pm »

This Budget will also unlock more than £40 million of funding to reinstate passenger services on the OkehamptonExeter line, subject to final approval of costs and contracts. These investments will provide good quality transport links between communities, and improve employment opportunities across these areas."
 
Page 61   https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/966161/Budget_2021_Web_accessible.pdf

All good news.

Presumably, this includes all the money so far spent and/or earmarked for restoration of services.

No, money was allocated in Great Western Railway´s (GWR (Great Western Railway)) Direct Award (started last April) to take forward the Okehampton plan and there has been more money provided for the work necessary to allow test and delivery trains.  Deliveries of materials have been strictly on the basis that they would be taken away again if approval was not forthcoming.  Don't think it will be too much longer (touch wood) until things become much clearer.


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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2021, 09:34:07 am »

Don't know many builders that supply the materials before they know if they are getting paid.
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« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2021, 12:35:24 pm »

Don't know many builders that supply the materials before they know if they are getting paid.

It's not a case of that.  Network Rail have clearly bought the materials - if it came to it (and let's face it, right now this really doesn't look like it is going to happen), they would be moved for use elsewhere.

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« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2021, 10:50:15 pm »

Delivered another trainload of ballast Tuesday night, returned Wednesday morning.

Sale or return!!!  picture from facebook.

Empty Ballast train coming from Okehampton. 10 March 2021 by Robert, on Flickr
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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2021, 10:31:26 pm »

Don't know many builders that supply the materials before they know if they are getting paid.

It's not a case of that.  Network Rail have clearly bought the materials - if it came to it (and let's face it, right now this really doesn't look like it is going to happen), they would be moved for use elsewhere.


I think it’s also relevant that Network Rail (NR» (Network Rail - home page)) continually buy ballast in vast quantities and maintain their own stockpiles at various locations around the country known as “virtual quarries”, so I suspect the delivery of ballast for a specific job just becomes an internal paper transfer.  It might just be a consumable item, depending on the amount needed for particular job.



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« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2021, 10:47:54 pm »

Two engineering trains, one last night, one tonight taking more sleepers up to Okehampton or a site between.
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« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2021, 12:03:25 am »

And it's now official.  The Dartmoor Line between Exeter and Okehampton will reopen to regular, year round trains before the end of the year.

Initially it will be a two hourly service but sometime in 2022, a full hourly service will be introduced.

We at the Devon & Cornwall Rail Partnership were asked to put together the project website on behalf of all the partners.  It has just now gone live and there is much more information there   https://dartmoorline.com/

You can expect much media coverage throughout Friday and beyond and a lot of social media too from Network Rail, GWR (Great Western Railway), ourselves (@dcrailpart) and many others.

A fabulous day!
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« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2021, 12:32:40 am »

There's a good video about the reopening here on this Devon Live piece

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/dartmoor-rail-line-return-year-5194035
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