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Author Topic: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20  (Read 3787 times)
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2021, 12:51:40 »

Can't help but think of the late Tony Capstick.

For anyone who doesnt know what we are thinking of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2AcJSkUw6M

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2021, 17:24:00 »

Bagpipes,  I hate Bagpipes, Cool
                I love Bagpipes  Cheesy

Let me explain. when reproduced on TV, Record player, CD (Capital Delivery) or any electrical appliance Bagpipes sound bad.

But when listened to directly IE as they are being played live, it's a sound that is wonderful. Smiley

Bagpipes just DON'T reproduce well. Angry
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2021, 18:31:29 »

Sounds like another Marmite subject.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2021, 19:45:33 »

Sounds like another Marmite subject.

Perhaps it is, but why that should be the case has intrigued me for years because it is almost uniquely confined to England. I know, so is Marmite, but I am talking about bagpipes.  Wink

There are plenty of instruments the world over that rely on a reservoir of air to operate. There are such beasts as Northumbrian pipes and accordions to mention just a few. There are also other instruments that make a sound through vibrating reeds.

My adoptive mother would tell anyone who hung around long enough that she hated bagpipes; ?just like wailing cats? she would say. It struck me at a very young age that a badly played violin sounds a lot more like wailing cats than bagpipes as does, to my ears at least, most of the output from Bela Bartok. Symphony for three Belfast sinks and a tin can often springs to mind but perhaps I am just a Philistine...

Anyway, I digress. There is a popular myth that bagpipes were banned after the Battle of Culloden in 1745 under the Dress Act of 1747.  Some limited research before I posted this suggested that that is probably not the case, but there was certainly much anti-Scottish feeling around in England at the time. I wonder whether one of that feeling?s consequences was the English learning to dislike bagpipes, and that learned, possibly Pavlovian behaviour, has been passed down the generations to this day.

 I accept his has got very little to do with a documentary on the Fort William to Mallaig line in Gaelic, but this just seemed an interesting digression!  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2021, 23:35:37 »

Bagpipes just DON'T reproduce well. Angry

Bit like pandas, then?

This thread has gone way off.    Lovely pictures and during the show I did some screen grabs.  As the pictures are some 120 years old, I wonder if they are out of copyright such that I can include them here?

I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet.   Tempted by easement 700784

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Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2021, 08:17:18 »

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I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet.   Tempted by easement 700784

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Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems.

Buy yoursel(f/ves) a Freedom of Scotland (or Highland) Railrover. Buses on Skye are included, as are the Calmac ferries.
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2021, 12:29:09 »

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I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet.   Tempted by easement 700784

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Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems.

Buy yoursel(f/ves) a Freedom of Scotland (or Highland) Railrover. Buses on Skye are included, as are the Calmac ferries.

Unless it has changed recently, Highland rover tickets are not valid on the buses on Skye but do cover the
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2021, 14:29:57 »

Something awful happen to Bagpipes in 1996.

They were up to 1996, classified as a

Weapon of War Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2021, 22:46:41 »

2 sets of bagpipes and not a harp in sight ... "World's most scenic railway journeys" on Channel 5 from 9 this evening, narrated by Bill Nighy. 

Lovely to see samples of places on the line itself, and the scenery and people around, somewhat disjoint continuity and issues.  Putting that aside, one of those people we met was John Yellowlees, who I met on the platform at Cambridge North soon after it opened and travelled with down to London (Hi, John - if you ever happen to read this - hi from the forum and from Melksham!). A lovely line and great pictures and an ambassador and enthusiast for rail in Scotland - retired now but not really retired. 

I look forward to the opportunity to travelling the West Highland line again - summer next year if not summer this, and perhaps catching up with friends in Scotland



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