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« on: February 12, 2021, 13:30:36 »

Geoff Marshall (of 'All the Stations' fame) is running a 'World Cup of Train Operators' poll. GWR (Great Western Railway) is up against LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) in the quarter finals!

Click here if you'd like to support the local team: https://twitter.com/geofftech/status/1360150998375927811?s=20
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2021, 13:53:48 »

Thanks, this will be interesting!
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2021, 14:01:11 »

IET (Intercity Express Train) v Azuma (Brand name for Class 80x trains on LNER). The name and buffet will probably swing it to LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about).
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2021, 14:10:09 »

Geoff Marshall (of 'All the Stations' fame) is running a 'World Cup of Train Operators' poll. GWR (Great Western Railway) is up against LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) in the quarter finals!

Click here if you'd like to support the local team: https://twitter.com/geofftech/status/1360150998375927811?s=20

IET (Intercity Express Train) v Azuma (Brand name for Class 80x trains on LNER). The name and buffet will probably swing it to LNER.

Voting currently very close .... so "every vote counts".    I'm delighted to support GWR ...



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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2021, 15:04:27 »

It’s interesting how the operators that are generally thought of as being the best, have fared so badly in this.  London Overground, Chiltern etc.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2021, 15:05:09 »

SWR» (South Western Railway - about) is doing one on their rolling stock!
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2021, 16:34:58 »

It’s interesting how the operators that are generally thought of as being the best, have fared so badly in this.  London Overground, Chiltern etc.

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... the operators often thought of as doing best for their customers are the smaller, more local ones.
... the operators doing best on a "vote for your favourite" are the bigger ones with a far higher number of customers

... Long distance will do well in a vote because lots of people use the trains occasionally - 1 or 2 journeys a year
... Strong commuter lines will do poorly because people only get one vote, even if they make 400 journeys a year
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 16:51:26 »

Watch how CLOSE it is at https://toccup.davwheat.dev

If you haven't done so yet, vote via https://twitter.com/geofftech/status/1360150998375927811
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2021, 17:34:02 »

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... the operators often thought of as doing best for their customers are the smaller, more local ones.
... the operators doing best on a "vote for your favourite" are the bigger ones with a far higher number of customers

... Long distance will do well in a vote because lots of people use the trains occasionally - 1 or 2 journeys a year
... Strong commuter lines will do poorly because people only get one vote, even if they make 400 journeys a year

But I thought both operators in the semi-final now predominantly operate the new trains that nobody likes?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2021, 19:20:42 »

Gap is widening substantially in favour of LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) - Any suggestions on how we can turn the tide?
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2021, 19:51:29 »

Gap is widening substantially in favour of LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) - Any suggestions on how we can turn the tide?

Be state owned and run?
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2021, 20:01:02 »

Gap is widening substantially in favour of LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) - Any suggestions on how we can turn the tide?

Be state owned and run?

Have an area over twice as long as our operating / whole territory?

It's supposed to be "a bit of fun" ... I have reached quite a few people on social media but drawn the line at advert promotion.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2021, 20:13:52 »

Gap is widening substantially in favour of LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) - Any suggestions on how we can turn the tide?

Why should we want to turn the tide ?
GWR (Great Western Railway) and their nasty, short, no catering*, and uncomfortable trains deserve to lose.

LNER with their slightly less nasty trains that have a small buffet are arguably the better operator. The seats are just as bad, but catering, train length, and reliability seem better than GWR.

*And yes I know that there might sometimes be a trolley, but this is so often in the other unit, hiding in the kitchen, closed for stocktaking, otherwise unavailable, or completely absent, that for all practical purposes one may say that GWR don't do catering.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2021, 21:01:14 »

Why should we want to turn the tide ?
GWR (Great Western Railway) and their nasty, short, no catering*, and uncomfortable trains deserve to lose.

Perhaps because it’s just a bit of fun?  Plus, of course, you should always support your local team.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2021, 22:08:06 »

Perhaps because it’s just a bit of fun?  Plus, of course, you should always support your local team.

I've seen how GWR (Great Western Railway) FC(resolve) play!
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