Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
End of through trains
Bristol to Waterloo?

 
Please sign our petition
(more information)
 
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 21:35 15 Oct 2021
- Covid: US to lift travel ban for fully jabbed on 8 November
- New travel rules: What tests do I need and where is on the red list?
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 tomorrow - Coffee Shop AGM - Didcot
17/10/21 - Wiltshire Climate Consultation
20/10/21 - SWR / Trowbridge meeting
27/10/21 - Railfuture on Cirencester
Random Image
Train RunningCancelled
17:04 London Paddington to Penzance
19:04 London Paddington to Penzance
19:28 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill
22:20 Paignton to Exeter St Davids
Short Run
20:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
20:24 Exmouth to Paignton
23:34 Reading to Gatwick Airport
Delayed
17:48 London Paddington to Carmarthen
18:18 London Paddington to Swansea
21:48 London Paddington to Swansea
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
October 15, 2021, 09:42:33 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[141] 648Y
[75] Staff reductions - London Area
[54] Porkway Partway
[53] Where were PhilWakely and bignosemac yesterday, 13th October 2...
[22] Former BR WR Chief Mechanical & Electrical Engineer - RIP
[21] "No tickets available" - Melksham to Didcot
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Contactless on Thames Valley Branches  (Read 2308 times)
w056863
Newbie
*
Posts: 7


View Profile
« on: February 22, 2021, 09:36:51 am »

Hello All,

I have heard a rumour that contactless roll out is going to be rolled out to Windsor/Marlow/Henley branches in March. I see this as being a great step forward removing islands of paper in the contactless sea of Paddington to Reading. Does anybody know anything more? Is this definite? Is it still going to be March?
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 34609



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 02:44:29 pm »

Hello All,

I have heard a rumour that contactless roll out is going to be rolled out to Windsor/Marlow/Henley branches in March. I see this as being a great step forward removing islands of paper in the contactless sea of Paddington to Reading. Does anybody know anything more? Is this definite? Is it still going to be March?

Excellent question, and welcome to the forum.   I'm afraid I'm just saying "welcome" - don't have an answer for you, but lots of members visit the forum over a day or two and chances are that someone will know, and will follow up.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, and on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest.
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 34609



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2021, 03:24:55 pm »

Hello All,

I have heard a rumour that contactless roll out is going to be rolled out to Windsor/Marlow/Henley branches in March. I see this as being a great step forward removing islands of paper in the contactless sea of Paddington to Reading. Does anybody know anything more? Is this definite? Is it still going to be March?

Bump ... anyone have an answer for our new member?

I had a look at the web site of the Maidenhead and Marlow Passenger Association to see if thy have anything that might provide an answer.  https://www.mmpa.org.uk/index.html . Clear sign of recent updates to the site including upcoming changes to train times in March for engineering, but no whisper I could see on ticketing changes.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, and on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest.
eightf48544
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 4540


View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2021, 11:27:12 am »

Was discussed at MMPA Committee Zoom last night.

Have heard the rumour, but have heard nothing official from GWR (Great Western Railway). The  March date seems unlikely. As far as we know no work has yet started on installng the touch pads, certainly not on the Marlow Branch.


Logged
Ralph Ayres
Transport Scholar
Sr. Member
******
Posts: 113


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2021, 11:51:27 am »

I can't see any mention of the existing contactless pay as you go on the Reading-Paddington main line on GWR (Great Western Railway)'s own website.  Am I just not looking hard enough, or is it really not there?
Logged
eightf48544
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 4540


View Profile Email
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 12:13:58 pm »

I think that's because it's TFL (Transport for London). It's very confuisng there are several threaads on this topic.

One I found is in All across the Great Western territory > Fare's Fair > What counts as PM off peak?
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8876


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2021, 12:26:00 pm »

I can't see any mention of the existing contactless pay as you go on the Reading-Paddington main line on GWR (Great Western Railway)'s own website.  Am I just not looking hard enough, or is it really not there?

https://www.gwr.com/plan-journey/tickets-railcards-and-season-tickets/contactless-payment

Granted, it doesn't exactly leap out at you when visiting the website!  Wink
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5837


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2021, 01:43:40 pm »

It's a confusing word, "contactless", isn't it? It's mostly used (outside transport) for payment using bank (debit and credit) cards, and TFL (Transport for London) use it for that alternative to Oyster (Smartcard system used by passengers on Transport for London services) cards. But originally "contactless" applied to the near-field communications link used for those and also for mobile phones and ITSO cards (GWR (Great Western Railway)'s and others'). So I guess if GWR use the word they probably do mean the "touch" pads* on ticket gates, since their systems don't work with bank cards.

* the ones you don't need to touch with the ticket carrier!
Logged
w056863
Newbie
*
Posts: 7


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2021, 12:13:59 pm »

London to Reading works on the TfL» (Transport for London - about) contactless system, which is bank cards, and Oyster (Smartcard system used by passengers on Transport for London services) within the London zonal system. You just touch in and then touch out, and then all your travelling (including on tubes & buses) for the day is debited to the card - there are also daily and weekly caps. Telling people who are not so familiar with public transport that they can use their bank card, and no need to queue up at the ticket office simplifies things enormously, and encourages them to use in preference to their cars. No need to decide if a weekly season is needed in advance is a great benefit if you are not certain which days you might be travelling.
Logged
w056863
Newbie
*
Posts: 7


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2021, 10:29:10 am »

Interestingly the contactless fares have now appeared on BR (British Rail(ways)) Fares, but not for travel to London...

Here is an example Windsor & Eton Central to Slough: https://www.brfares.com/!fares?orig=WNC&dest=SLO

Anytime Day Single Paper £3.10. Contactless Peak Single £2.00
Off Peak Day Single Paper £3.00. Contactless Off Peak Single £1.50
Anytime Day Return Paper £4.00
Off Peak Day Return Paper £3.10

There are no Return Fares with Contactless, but it makes sense when you do the maths, however if you travel one way in peak, and the other off peak, it is most advantageous to use contactless (notwithstanding the differences between the timing of peak and off peak for paper and contactless)
Logged
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5837


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2021, 11:12:15 am »

Interestingly the contactless fares have now appeared on BR (British Rail(ways)) Fares, but not for travel to London...

Here is an example Windsor & Eton Central to Slough: https://www.brfares.com/!fares?orig=WNC&dest=SLO

Anytime Day Single Paper £3.10. Contactless Peak Single £2.00
Off Peak Day Single Paper £3.00. Contactless Off Peak Single £1.50
Anytime Day Return Paper £4.00
Off Peak Day Return Paper £3.10

There are no Return Fares with Contactless, but it makes sense when you do the maths, however if you travel one way in peak, and the other off peak, it is most advantageous to use contactless (notwithstanding the differences between the timing of peak and off peak for paper and contactless)

Not just not for travel to London - they are shown with validity "not for travel" on BRFares. And GWR (Great Western Railway)'s web site still has an FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) saying:
Quote
Can I use contactless pay as you go on the Henley, Marlow and Windsor & Eton branch lines?

Contactless pay as you go isn’t available on these GWR branch lines. You will need to touch in or touch out at the gateline of the mainline station and have a separate ticket for the branch line, or alternatively have a ticket for your whole journey.

So are they trying something out before announcing it then making it work? Perhaps letting you buy a GWR single to add onto your TfL» (Transport for London - about) trip into London? But usually these things appear well in advance in published and internal documents (and sites like London Reconnections), especially so if TfL is involved. 
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5964


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2021, 05:50:03 pm »

London to Reading works on the TfL» (Transport for London - about) contactless system, which is bank cards, and Oyster (Smartcard system used by passengers on Transport for London services) within the London zonal system. You just touch in and then touch out, and then all your travelling (including on tubes & buses) for the day is debited to the card - there are also daily and weekly caps. Telling people who are not so familiar with public transport that they can use their bank card, and no need to queue up at the ticket office simplifies things enormously, and encourages them to use in preference to their cars. No need to decide if a weekly season is needed in advance is a great benefit if you are not certain which days you might be travelling.

Works really well on Reading-Paddington now that TfL are running the show, and it's timely given the huge changes in commuting which are afoot.
Logged
w056863
Newbie
*
Posts: 7


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2021, 03:06:06 pm »

I read elsewhere that Contactless on the Thames Valley branches is supposed to be working before 31st October 2021. The cabling is being fitted to enable the readers, so perhaps 31st October will be an appropriate launch date.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page