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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2021, 04:21:20 pm »

Apart from Derbyshire Police who have demonstrated a notable lack of understanding of the difference between guidance and regulations.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2021, 04:43:57 pm »

Pretty much off-topic as that isn't in any way related to railways
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2021, 04:59:03 pm »

Pretty much off-topic as that isn't in any way related to railways

Come, come ... as I recall the Derbyshire issue included as a key element definition of what the word "local" meant - and that relates to the boundaries of travel.  In addition to the attempt (as I read it) to enforce guidance as if it was law.

The "local" definition is an interesting one, indeed.  As guidance / encouragement it's probably a good word to be using, and it'll tend to "busy up" buses, local and regional trains relative to long distance trains and coaches.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2021, 11:35:37 pm »

in the turn up on the day scenario,could not find anything in the PM's statement.Or is it a case of waiting till monday 21st june

Various social distancing and other reviews along the way - unclear / not yet decided on social distancing into the future, nor on facemask rules - to go, or with us permanently?

Personally, I would think twice about ever coming back to the UK (United Kingdom) (hooray! say some) if face masks were permanently required. Even here in France where some of the more stringent measures have been put in place (papers required, curfew etc), President Macron has clearly said on numerous occasions that face mask rules will be lifted as soon as it is possible to do so, with "summer" often mentioned with regard to the timeframe.

In overall terms, you have to look at what you believe the primary function of a government actually is - Should a government's first role be to keep us safe, or should it be to keep us free?

My personal view is that in all but the most extreme of circumstances, such as war, or the midst of a deadly global pandemic as we are now, a government's first role should be to keep us free, and as life gradually returns to "normal", one should be very wary of the functionary, armed with reams of data on how accepting the population was of restrictions, who says "you know what, some of the measures we put in place would be eminently sensible to keep in place going forward..."

Excellent news for those who hope I never darken the UK's door again:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56475807

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Covid: Masks and social distancing 'could last years'

People may need to wear face coverings and socially distance for several years until we return to normality, a leading epidemiologist has predicted.

Mary Ramsay, the head of immunisation at Public Health England, said basic measures could be in place until other countries successfully roll out jabs.

She also said a return of big spectator events required careful monitoring and clear instructions about staying safe.

The defence secretary has not ruled out the foreign holiday ban being extended.

Ben Wallace told BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) One's Andrew Marr Show that booking a break abroad now would be "premature" and "potentially risky".

The UK set another record for the number of coronavirus vaccine doses given in a single day on Saturday, with 844,285 jabs.

Dr Ramsay said restrictions such as face coverings in crowded places and social distancing had become accepted by many and still allowed the economy to function.

She said "people have got used to those lower-level restrictions now, and people can live with them, and the economy can still go on with those less severe restrictions in place".

"So I think certainly for a few years, at least until other parts of the world are as well vaccinated as we are, and the numbers have come down everywhere, that is when we may be able to go very gradually back to a more normal situation," she added.


Warning it was "very important that we do not relax too quickly", Dr Ramsay said any circulating virus would inevitably pick on those who are vulnerable.

"We have to look very carefully before any of these restrictions are lifted," she said.

Slippery slope...
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2021, 06:53:07 am »

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Like most things, open to interpretation, from a public health point of view; keep us free from infection?
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2021, 07:11:09 am »

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Like most things, open to interpretation, from a public health point of view; keep us free from infection?

To be clear, I have NEVER had a problem with following sensible rules on preventing Covid infection. I have scrupulously washed my hands, social distanced, and worn my mask without question in enclosed/indoor public spaces and on public transport where it is obvious that such measures could make a genuine difference.

The problem is, to give an example,  just this week our county has been hit by a blanket mask order where we have to put one on the moment we walk out the door, regardless of whether we live in the biggest town or the remotest hamlet.

I live in a town of less than 3000 people that never gets crowded and it is wrong, plain wrong, and a genuine assault on people's freedom, led by politicians and people like Ms Ramsey who have probably always felt we should act this way with flu epidemics and the like, and now feel "their time has come."

If this results in people getting so fed up that they end up electing extremists like Marine Le Pen, then they will only have themselves to blame.
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2021, 11:36:32 am »

To be clear, I have NEVER had a problem with following sensible rules on preventing Covid infection. I have scrupulously washed my hands

Read the research - the number of infections picked up by touching is infinitelyu small - it's all to do with the aerosols being breathed in
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2021, 12:02:48 pm »

To be clear, I have NEVER had a problem with following sensible rules on preventing Covid infection. I have scrupulously washed my hands

Read the research - the number of infections picked up by touching is infinitelyu small - it's all to do with the aerosols being breathed in

If you hadnt cropped my quote like a muppet which went on to mention my wearing a mask indoors and social distancing... you seem to be on a bit of a wind up quest recently with your forum posts in general.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2021, 12:08:22 pm »

I was simply pointing out that the advice to wash your hands is quite simply pretty much useless. In other words, I was agreeing with you.
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