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Question: What would you call the new "Network Rail"  (Voting closed: March 03, 2021, 15:31:41)
Around by Rail - 0 (0%)
Britain's Trains - 0 (0%)
British Railways - 23 (53.5%)
English Rail - 1 (2.3%)
Go! Rail - 1 (2.3%)
Great British Rail - 5 (11.6%)
Network Rail - 11 (25.6%)
Train Line - 0 (0%)
Train Travel - 0 (0%)
Your Railway - 2 (4.7%)
Total Voters: 33

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2021, 12:42:27 »

Ideally, British Rail.

Rebrand all the TOCs (Train Operating Company) at the same time to the same name.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2021, 09:02:07 »

Vote result ...

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Around by Rail   - 0 (0%)
Britain's Trains   - 0 (0%)
British Railways   - 23 (53.5%)
English Rail   - 1 (2.3%)
Go! Rail   - 1 (2.3%)
Great British Rail   - 5 (11.6%)
Network Rail   - 11 (25.6%)
Train Line   - 0 (0%)
Train Travel   - 0 (0%)
Your Railway   - 2 (4.7%)

Total Voters: 33

Well - that outcome is astonishing.  23 out of 33 voters (70%) selected "British Railways" as one of their preferences.   Multiple votes were allowed, and even after that more than half the votes cast were for "British Railways"

Within our (unrepresentative) group, couldn't be much clearer!

Interesting to see if a government of the same colour of the one that scrapped "British Rail(ways)" could stomach the idea of re-introducing the name.  Stranger things have happened!
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2021, 18:55:57 »


It should obviously be called the Great Western Rly, TOC (Train Operating Company) notwithstanding.

Alternatively, in deference to NPR and to England's premier Counties, it should be called the Lancashire and Yorkshire Rly.

What it must have is a General Manager.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2021, 20:11:14 »

It should obviously be called the Great Western Rly, TOC (Train Operating Company) notwithstanding.

This use of "Great" in interesting - and dates from way back in rail history??    Intertesting that "Great British Rail(way) got votes - but was a poor second to British Rail(ways)).

Olden days ... Great Eastern, Great Western, Great Northern. The exception was Great Southern which was Ireland; I suspect that competing companies were "marketing" as they grabbed territory and don't really know if that's right for the current times.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2021, 21:43:06 »

'London...' was also a popular pre-grouping railway company name.

London and Blackwall Railway
London and Birmingham Railway
London and Brighton Railway
London, Brighton and South Coast Railway
London, Chatham and Dover Railway
London and Croydon Railway
London and Greenwich Railway
London and North Western Railway
London and Southampton Railway
London and South Western Railway
London, Tilbury and Southend Railway
North London Railway
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2021, 23:42:27 »

Given the thinking that seems to be circulating in high places these days*, Union Railways might have something going for it... with a certain degree of ambiguity added-value? 

What would TaplowGreen think of it?


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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2021, 11:52:16 »

It should obviously be called the Great Western Rly, TOC (Train Operating Company) notwithstanding.

This use of "Great" in interesting - and dates from way back in rail history??    Intertesting that "Great British Rail(way) got votes - but was a poor second to British Rail(ways)).

Olden days ... Great Eastern, Great Western, Great Northern. The exception was Great Southern which was Ireland; I suspect that competing companies were "marketing" as they grabbed territory and don't really know if that's right for the current times.

In the case of the GWR (Great Western Railway) it dates back to 1833, but the epithet was applied to coach roads (such as the Great North Road) from the end of the 17th Century. It's used pretty much synonymously with 'main', rather than in the modern sense of 'much better than average', though the GWR obviously meets both criteria admirably.

The GER and GNR, like the GWR, were essentially major routes which grew into networks. Routes from London to the South-East, on the other hand, were a bit on the short side to be described as 'Great'.
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