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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2022, 02:33:08 pm »

This has just been posted on Twitter

https://twitter.com/stpeterslayout/status/1596125590733611009
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2022, 05:30:50 pm »

So, stock that argueably should not have been repurposed in the first place now to be withdrawn with no provision for replacement. This from a railway whose services are already often capacity-constrained at a time when passenger flows are in a state of flux and the industry is struggling both to (at times) meet demand and (at all times) return to a financial surplus.

In the medium term, does this mean chaotic provision of 5 carriage IETs (Intercity Express Train) on Paddington services, short formed Cardiff - Portsmouth services, a greater chance of underprovision of services on the line into Cornwall, or all three? This doesn't feel healthy at all.

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2022, 05:36:38 pm »

Another observation via Twitter, this time in relation to Bedminster and a forthcoming development there that will increase footfall.

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https://twitter.com/TheMurkyDepths/status/1596158551650861056
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2022, 05:42:41 pm »

So, stock that argueably should not have been repurposed in the first place now to be withdrawn with no provision for replacement. This from a railway whose services are already often capacity-constrained at a time when passenger flows are in a state of flux and the industry is struggling both to (at times) meet demand and (at all times) return to a financial surplus.

In the medium term, does this mean chaotic provision of 5 carriage IETs (Intercity Express Train) on Paddington services, short formed Cardiff - Portsmouth services, a greater chance of underprovision of services on the line into Cornwall, or all three? This doesn't feel healthy at all.

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Probably a combination of all three.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2022, 05:56:45 pm »

So, stock that argueably should not have been repurposed in the first place now to be withdrawn with no provision for replacement. This from a railway whose services are already often capacity-constrained at a time when passenger flows are in a state of flux and the industry is struggling both to (at times) meet demand and (at all times) return to a financial surplus.

In the medium term, does this mean chaotic provision of 5 carriage IETs (Intercity Express Train) on Paddington services, short formed Cardiff - Portsmouth services, a greater chance of underprovision of services on the line into Cornwall, or all three? This doesn't feel healthy at all.

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I mentioned above that elsewhere there are reports that the Cardiff-Portsmouth service wil be reduced to 3 carriages.
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2022, 06:12:07 pm »

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The decision to withdraw the fleet has been made both to reduce cost and reduce carbon emissions across the routes the fleet had served.
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The diagrams that the fleet operate will be covered by redeploying our Intercity Express Trains (IET (Intercity Express Train)) and remaining diesel fleet.

I am sure I read somewhere a while back that the Class 802 IETs were actually more polluting than the IC125 when running in diesel mode ?
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« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 08:55:53 am »

My initial post in this thread was made in "The Rumour Mill", with a note that if confirmed it would be moved to our more public boards.  Well - it has been confirmed, and indeed there is much more data now and I will be moving the thread

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