Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 13:55 28 Nov 2022
- Odell Beckham Jr: Wide receiver removed from plane before take-off at Miami Airport
- North of England faces rail chaos, warns business lobby
- When are the train strikes and what routes are affected?
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 30/03/23 - Railfuture Annual, Leeds

On this day
28th Nov (1958)
Closure of Abbotsbury branch (*)

Train RunningShort Run
09:10 Penzance to London Paddington
13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern
Delayed
11:50 London Paddington to Hereford
11:55 Great Malvern to London Paddington
13:04 London Paddington to Plymouth
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
November 28, 2022, 02:01:08 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[130] Normal crosses, Maltese Crosses and Asterisks on tickets. And...
[98] Not all cancellations count....
[82] Privately owned funicular railway.
[63] Reopening Cullompton and Wellington stations (merged topic)
[56] Growing Rail Revenue
[53] ORR - Estimates of station usage 2021/2
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: State of play - travel experiences to and from Avoncliff yesterday  (Read 1883 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 37273



View Profile WWW Email
« on: July 25, 2021, 10:16:47 am »

From Warminster, Dilton Marsh, Patchway, Filton Abbey Wood, Trowbridge and Melksham they came by train yesterday to Avoncliff for the walking tour described at http://www.passenger.chat/25172 . The train manager on my train from Melksham described my journey as "brave", and I'm sure that comment related to the forecast awful weather; I reassured him that the group could shelter on the road under the aquaduct if it got really bad.

My outbound journey was more or less as it should have been - 13:00 from home, walk to station for 13:30 train (which left at 13:34), change at Trowbridge (onto 13:47, left at 13:49) to Avoncliff (arrival at 13:57). Only concern was if the train from Melksham was going to miss the connection at Trowbridge.    Others less fortunate - from Warminster, attendees an hour late because the connecting train was so late into Westbury that the stopper left ahead of it.   From Dilton Marsh, our knowledgable member reaslised the problem, and left home early to walk to Westbury. From Patchway, a member travelled an hour early noting there were problems, and doubled back at Bradford-on-Avon off a train that had not stopped at Avoncliff, and from Filton Abbey Wood, a member arrived quarter of an hour late.  We knew her train was late, and the start of the walking tour was duly delayed.

Return journey .. my schedule was 16:15 from AVF to TRO» (Trowbridge - next trains) (16:25 to 16:43 change) to MKM» (Melksham (Station code) - next trains) at 16:52. But the train left AVF at 16:44, arriving TRO at 16:53. Two wrongs make a right, of course. The 16:43 from Trowbridge didn't leave until 17:14, arriving Melksham 17:22.  I was actually very lucky, noting two successive cancellations at Trowbridge to Cardiff which would have left a gap for the Filton and Patchway folks, and those who stopped around at Avoncliff for the next train southbound would have found it cancelled too.

Passenger loadings?  Good numbers off and on both trains at Melksham; around 30 people on the train between Trowbridge in both directions. Much busier on the train between Trowbridge and Avoncliff - probably because the hourly local is the only direct train into Temple Meads at the moment, with the Portsmouth to Cardiff services (when they are not cancelled!) skipping from Keynsham to Filton Abbey Wood.  Trains were all 2 or 3 carriages on the main line - from what I saw, they should have been 5 carriages in all cases to offer comfort and space to those of us who still prefer to socially distance.

Mask wearing?  Patchy.  Of course, it has been OK for you not to wear a mask during eating or drinking, and there was an element drinking beer or cider all the way. And there's an element - typically but not totally the younger metric - who are now living their freedom to choose.  One such pair of young ladies joined the Swindon train at Trowbridge on the return to Melksham and went straight into the loo together, emerging shortly before Melksham.  The train manager had passed checking tickets by the time they came out, but passed back through once they has sat down across the aisle from me and stopped to "ask".  Perhaps I should not have watched what was going on, as they suggested that they would "smash my face in" should I continue to do so.  Train manager suggested I move up the train; I gave him my details as I left the train, and he advised me (good advise) to let the charmers leave the area before I left the station. Wise advice which I followed.

I often have multiple purposes in a journey, and in this trip I was also doing a final review of what (if anything) we should do for promoting train travel this summer.  I am duly warned off recommending just about anything that requires a change of trains along the way, and in favour of including a "what to do if your return train is cancelled / delayed / connection misses" advice. I am, sadly, not confident enough in GWR (Great Western Railway) running trains and looking after people properly when that fails to promote anything much more that trips to Swindon and Chippenham, and to Trowbridge and Westbury.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Vice Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, and on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest.
CyclingSid
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1598


Hockley viaduct


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2021, 07:06:01 am »

Quote
I am duly warned off recommending just about anything that requires a change of trains along the way
Very good advice. From my point of view I get the impression, even before the current Covid staffing situation, that the TOCs (Train Operating Company)/DfT» (Department for Transport - about) are doing what they can to make rail travel less attractive this summer.

Looking at my usual routes. The revised (i.e. hourly) Saturday service RDG(resolve)-BSK (Brake Standard Corridor (carriage)) seems to leave me with a 50 minute wait at BSK for trains to Southampton, Fareham, Bournemouth etc. If I am lucky I can get one of the two-hourly CC services which reduces the pain, but probably get caught on the way back.

The RDG-WAT route seems to have been bustitution for the last few weekends, and this Saturday again. Even with a Brompton, sitting on a bus to SNS is unlikely to get me in a good frame of mind for the Thames Path into London.

I know there are other routes, but the cycling options for me seem limited. Bedwyn to Swindon via Marlborough is possible, allowing for ticketing hassle, but once a year is probably enough. Similar for Andover to Romsey.

Possibly a bit far off topic so split if necessary.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page